On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 08:58:36PM +0000, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 03:36:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > It's only a veto if a malicious group does this *indefinitely* and > > > intentionally and I haven't seen evidence that this is happening or > > > is about to happen. Let me know if I've missed something. > > > > The past is not always prologue. > > > > As the project grows, and apparently more polarized, it is > > easy to find K + 1 developers at the extreme ends of any > > position. As the project grows, so do the extent that people go to to > > get their ends met (I'll refrain from pointing out the latest > > proposals on -vote). > > Manoj is right about this. The key words are, "As the project grows." > > The Iron Law of Large Society obtains. Standing houses of parliament > seldom have a thousand members. Industrial plants seldom exceed two > thousand workers. Schools with three thousand children have been tried; > they fail. Why this is so, you and I can speculate; but that it is so, > is hard to dispute. Hi Thaddeus, a while ago, I thought about the 1,300 (+-) DD's and realized that there is a difference between 1,300 active mailing-list flaming package maintainers and 1,300 active non-flaming low-mailing-list-reading low-threshold-nmu package maintainers. One is 'heard' in the public square that are high-traffic mailing lists and blogs and the other are the folks who just fix bugs without all the drama. Debian has both. But the flaming ones are the ones that cause the upset on the mailing list and their numbers are not 100% of the populace. Those are the ones that need to be managed. The other kind does not need to be. It is not the quiet ones that are fillabustering or making GR after GR or other endlessly annoying things. Thus 1,300 'quiet' DD are manageable as would be 5,000. Its a hundred or so flaming dd's that get more problematic as their numbers increase one by one. This is just a general observation and does not in any way refer to any one specifically but rather to any large organization. Its what makes Debian a fun place where folks battle out the myriad points of view of free software -- an [ESR] bazaar of opinions where each POW battles for supremacy in ... the meritocracy thunderdome! x-) cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org |
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