Re: About expulsion requests
- To: Debian Project <email@example.com>
- Subject: Re: About expulsion requests
- From: Russ Allbery <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:15:29 -0700
- Message-id: <email@example.com>
- In-reply-to: <20060410193053.GA682@localhost.localdomain> (Sven Luther's message of "Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:30:54 +0200")
- References: <20060316145119.GA21189@df7cb.de> <20060410193053.GA682@localhost.localdomain>
Sven Luther <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> The only real way to handle this, is to modify the expulsion process,
> and to start the process not with a public or private lynching process,
> but with a first step consisting of asking the DPL, or someone delegated
> by him, to do a private mediation process, and only if this step fails,
> should more advanced steps be taken.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but my impression was that the *current* process
started with a *private* message to the DAM asking to start this process
(and at that point, mediation could certainly be done if appropriate).
So far as I can tell, the decision to make the first message public or
semi-public has been a decision taken by the people who chose to start it,
not by the process, and changing the process isn't going to address that
problem (unless, I suppose, there's some ban in the process for starting
that way, but that gets rather tricky). Since Debian's mailing lists are
not moderated, I doubt we're going to be able to prevent people from
publicly calling for the expulsion of developers if that's what they
decide they want to do.
Maybe we can convince more people to ignore such public statements unless
the expulsion process *actually* starts (which so far as I can tell has
yet to ever happen).
Russ Allbery (email@example.com) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>