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Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 08:35:02AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:22:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I want to remind you all, that previous to the two GRs which clarified the
> > meaning of what we must consider free, we had a widely disputed GR on the fate
> > of our non-free section, and we all voted to keep it, especially because there
> > was non-free software (including firmware, documentation and whatever), which
> > was non-free but useful to our users, and we decided to keep it accordying to
> > our social contract which put our users and free software on equal level.
> That's not correct.  The project simply voted not to removed it at that
> time, by defeating the GR.  There was no affirmative vote to keep
> non-free as far as I can remember.  The amendment that passed was 
> a no-op that basically said that the status quo remains.

So, you simply discount the 100 or 1000s of email that preceded that vote, and
all the argumentation against removing non-free, how convenient.

The status quo in our voting system would have been none-of-the-above, so there
was clearly a choice to keep non-free, if i remember well.

> Not only that, but there were people that voted to abolish non-free, so
> to state that "we all voted to keep it" is erroneous.

We did all vote, and the result of that vote was to keep non-free, and the
result of the vote are thus binding on the debian project as a whole (until
the next GR about this topic that is).


Sven Luther

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