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Re: Taking a position on anti-patent licenses (was ' Re: Bug#289856: mdnsresponder: Wrong license')



Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:27:44PM -0700, OSS wrote:
>>Steve,
>>If I follow you correctly
>>   A -  writes program #49 and licenced under
>>GPL-compliant-patent-defending-licence
>>   B -  distributed program #49 to C-D (may or may not have made
>>enhancement/change)
>>   C - determines their patent is infringed by program #49 and launches
>>legal action (presumably against A, B, & D)
>>   E - may have patents infringed by program #49, but is otherwise
>>uninvolved & takes no action
>>   F - determines their patent is infringed by program #49 and launches
>>legal action (presumably against A, B, & D)
>>We know that no option is available to use the licence to defend against
>>F, unless we use the unacceptable path of cross-contamination, etc. (ie
>>any software patent defence terminates all software licences with patent
>>defence clause)
>
>>Josh wants C to lose their licence to use program #49 as a result of
>>legal action as a mechanism to defend A, B & D's rights to develop,
>>distribute & use program #49.
>
> I don't think that Josh has said that -- especially given that you do not
> have to have a copyright license to *use* a program.

That's correct, and thanks for realizing that; I suggested that it's
acceptable to terminate their license to the program, but that does not
terminate their rights to *use* the program, only to copy, modify, and
distribute it.

>>You want C to lose any patent licences granted for program #49. How does
>>that help defend program #49 and hedge software patents?
>
> When did I say that it did?  The proper way to defend the program against
> party C is by shooting him, obviously; but that's out of scope for copyright
> licenses.

Heh. :)

- Josh Triplett

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