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Re: new queue process tweaks



On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:58:22PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 07:02:12PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > So, firstly, congratulations on http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html -
> > it has made the processing of new packages a lot more transparent.
> > 
> > Which has resulted in more and more packages being processed quicker,
> > however it has also made apparent that you have difficulties when it
> > comes to deciding on some packages.
> > 
> > One process modification I would suggest is that rather than leaving
> > packages in 'NEW queue limbo' if you are not able to reject or accept them 
> > after 2 months, you refer the package to the technical committee instead.
> 
> I dont think adding an other detour to Yet Another Team is adding
> any value at all. people *do* look at the problematic packages in
> NEW and work on the issues involved. why would the technical
> committee be any better then those people? 

If you have a lot of things on your todo list, it is easy to
procrastinate when other things appear on it which seem easier.  If 
you only have one thing though.

> Those stalled packages pose serious non-technical problems. I
> suggest to NOT form the "non-technical committee" but let the
> ftp-master team try to solve the problem and trust them to call
> for help if they need it ... or at least give them more time
> untill you start restructuring.

It isn't clear to me that the issue with those (we are talking about 5
packages at the moment) is or is not technical.  What *is* clear is that
the ftp-master team can not decide.

I would like to see Debian's processes evolve to be somewhat similiar to
the IETF's -- where there is a clearly defined flow of how a document
progresses from draft to standard.  Similiarly it would be nice if the
Debian project decided to be more Morton-like, that is explicit
acceptance or explicit rejection, rather than Linus-like (implied
rejection) in its handling of things.

To me, making the committment that a package is decided upon after X
weeks (I'm suggesting 8), if there is no outcome pending it be referred 
to the technical committee would be a positive Morton-like way to go.

Thanks,
Anand

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