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Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 04:28:49PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:10:45PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > There is a massive difference between "working assumption" and
> > "proven".
> > 
> > "To use plausible arguments in place of proofs, and henceforth to
> > refer to these arguments as proofs" was, I believe, originally
> > referring to physics, but it was not intended as an example of what to
> > do.
> You've still not presented an alternative.

The alternative is that there is nothing interesting here. It's not a
very interesting alternative. Occam's razor says we go with it until
we have a reason to do otherwise.

> The working hypothesis stands
> simply because that's where the evidence points. The burden of
> disproving it is on the naysayer. That's what science is, disproving
> hypotheses by observations. Go for it.

I hypothesise that you are a gerbil. Gerbils can't form rational
arguments. Therefore you are wrong.

Your burden-of-proof notion is completely backwards, and the above is
an example of why. The burder of proof rests upon the one who wants to
introduce an assertion.

> > > > The anecdote presented was grossly mischaracterised and not an example
> > > > of what it claimed to be.
> > > There are other anecdotes.
> > Which I was not talking about. Pay attention to the mails you are
> > replying to.
> You replied to Manoj's mail, which was in the context of the larger
> discussion. In addition to that, the example you cite is in the HOWTO,
> which is a document written by a number of women who all share this
> opinion completely outside of the specifics of the Debian proeject. Your 
> advice goes both ways.

And here's what I said, quoting the entire text of the mail:

> Hey, I remember that incident, and the author of the HOWTO has blown
> it out of all proportion. Try talking to the people involved.

Yup, precisely what I meant, and no references to anything else. What
was that you were saying?

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