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Bug#210879: marked as done (constitution.txt: revise odd language -- "K Developers"... "not integers")



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Package: doc-debian
Version: 3.0.2
Severity: wishlist


There's some odd language in '/usr/share/doc/debian/constitution.txt':

1	A resolution or amendment is introduced if proposed by any Developer
2	and sponsored by at least K other Developers...

...and the number 'K' is later defined, in part, as follows:

3	Q and K need not be integers and are not rounded.

This implies fractional Developers.  In line #2 above the author must
have meant an integer, (or rather a natural number -- there aren't any
negative numbers of Developers), but saying "at least" leaves room for
doubt, especially since line #3 says K isn't rounded!

Example: suppose K=4.4; but by line #3 'K' is not rounded, (if it were we'd
know a quorum would be at least 5, or 4.4 rounded up), and if it's not
rounded then .4 of a Developer means who knows what.

For line #3 I suggest changing 'integers' to 'natural numbers' or 'whole
numbers', and 'and are not rounded' to 'and are rounded up when counting
people, but not when counting votes.'  ...or something to the same
effect.

(Of course we all know a Constitution is by design not as easy to amend
as a garden variety typo.  Difficulty shouldn't justify errors though.)

Hope this helps us become wholly impartial.


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Subject: Re: Bug#210879: constitution.txt: revise odd language -- "K Developers"... "not integers"
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Hello.

> The story so far...
> AC reported that certain language was ambiguous.

> (**why so many objections to a mere wishlist bug?  Dunno...)

The objections are because there isn't a problem here. Everyone knows
how it's to be interpreted, and there is fundamentally no ambiguity. If
you wish to play Humpty Dumpty, that's fine, but do it on your own time.

Please don't play bug tennis ("it's open", "it's closed", "it's open",
"it's closed", "open", "closed") with maintainers. If you can't persuade
people that this is a problem, learn to live with it. If you can't do
that either, use a different distribution.

Bug closed with this message. Don't reopen it.

Cheers,
aj

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