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Re: Data does NOT belong in Debian (was: Stop Archive bloat)



On Mon, Oct 18, 1999 at 06:16:58PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote:
> "Pure data" packages are a problem because:
>   2) There is NO packaging needed. It's just a tar ball.

Well, it has to be arranged according to policy (ie, /usr/share/doc/foo,
instead of just ./foo), and running things like install-docs or
install-menu could be useful.

>   3) Where do we stop ? As someone says, there's nothing preventing
>      me from uploading as debian package every single .wav or .mov
>      file on the Internet just because it's useful.

But OTOH, it *is* useful, and it'd be nice to have it integrated into
the distribution rather than just thrown in /usr/local or ~ or somewhere.
E and Gnome themes strike me as one good example here.

> This is what I believe are acceptable "pure data" packages:
>   5) Linux-specific or debian-specific data (HOWTOs, FAQs,
>      debian-user-guide).

ie, "documentation" ? What of things like Linux Gazette? Or, say, a
collection of old issues of lwn or slashdot? Or a collection of old
bug reports against Debian packages?

I'd be inclined to leave all of them in a data section.

> Examples of data packages which does NOT belong to debian (IMHO):
>   2) Any kind of text easily findable on the web (RFCs (even though I
>      love to have RFCs around, but we have a draw a line))

The whole point being that with a data/ section, you can just add an
Apt line, or buy a "Debian + Data" CD set, and still have them lying
around.

> Pros of this policy:
>   2) Avoids controversial materials (politics and religious texts)

Like bitchx, or SATAN, or nmap, or devfs? :)

> Of course, with some common sense we would have avoided this
> discussion.

Common sense is ever so much more common in the past tense.

Cheers,
aj

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        results in slower code, and it results in more bugs.''
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