Re: Request for a once-montly PowerPC for Apple Systems FAQ?
Thanks.
I’m in great shape, everything running fairly well on my machines.
But most people have no idea even what boot iso to use, it seems, from the 1,200 questions over and over and over about it on the Linux on PowerPC Macs facebook group (and the 1,199 wrong answers :> ).
Perhaps someone with writing skills and interest might be interested, in time.
Best to all,
Ken
> On Jan 31, 2022, at 1:19 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken!
>
> On 1/30/22 22:29, Ken Cunningham wrote:
>> I am noticing there is a tremendous amount of misinformation and outright confusion floating
>> around about installing debian (current) on PowerPC Apple systems. Current walkthroughs are
>> telling people what seems to me to be the completely wrong way to go about things. Older
>> debian and other walkthroughs are no longer valid. People are following recipes from 2,
>> 3, or 8 years ago, adding all the wrong apt sources and installing software from all over
>> the place, thinking they are following the current recommendations, which it seems to me,
>> they are not.
>
> Since writing documentation involves quite some work, I can't currently do that. So, if anyone
> wants to help, let me know. But also keep in mind that there are still some issues left to
> be fixed in the installation system on Apple PowerMac.
>
> I have explained a bit on the background here:
>
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2021/12/msg00032.html
>
>> Other distros are dropping PowerPC Apple systems, and people are looking for direction.
>>
>> Given that this list is the defacto standard for the source of such info, I wonder if
>> someone might agree to maintain a once-monthly “This is how…” FAQ or similar.
>
> Well, it always involves time and effort, there is no free lunch :-).
>
>> 1. which exact iso is the current recommended install iso for Apple PowerPC machines
>
> You can search the mailing list to find the images where people reported that they work.
>
>> 2. whether to use 64bit on G5s or not
>
> I'm not sure why this is a question? The ppc64 port is in very good shape and runs perfectly
> find on the PowerMac G5. I don't see any reason not to use it.
>
>> 3. what is the current recommended setup for apt sources
>
> # binary default
> deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unstable main
> deb http://incoming.ports.debian.org/buildd/ unstable main
> deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main
>
> # source
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
> deb-src http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/ buildd-unstable main
>
>
>> 4. how to get the common video cards working
>
> That depends on your video card.
>
>> 5. how to get the b43 wifi working
>
> You have to use the b43-fwcutter tool.
>
>> 6. how to get the sound working
>
> Depends on your hardware. Sound works out of the box on my iBook G4.
>
>> Ideally something really brief, and recipe-like, for many new users to follow. All
>> this info is out there, but in different places and not easy to cull into one spot.
>
> Well, the driver-related questions are not specific to PowerMacs. For example, if you
> use an ATI/AMD video card, you need the firmware on both x86 and PowerPC machines and
> you install them the same way.
>
>> This might solve a great number of questions out there, and bring in happy new users!
>
> But it means time and effort that needs to be spent. Especially, since several of these
> questions are not specific to PowerPC.
>
> Adrian
>
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