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Wy should it not be possible to boot from usb on dual g5 2.0?

I intended to convey that my machine in particular doesn’t boot USB, but GRUB/(Yaboot?) functionality should most certainly include machines that do.

Also, is there a bug in latest yaboot installer?
Strangely, when installing Sid on powermac g5 quad on the same harddrive where is main osx partition found, upon reboot yaboot would no longer find X and show only boot options ĺ for linux and c for cd drive. When i would install an wheezy install over sod, yaboot would again find X.

I found the exact same thing, but with installing Wheezy over a non-dual-booting Jessie problematic-install, to return dual-booting functionality with OS X. It may have been the Yaboot in Jessie where the bug started. This was on my dual 2.0 machine, but I didn’t find this with my G5 Quad, as it installed Jessie to include dual-booting with Tiger OS X right away (subsequent installs sometimes dual-booted, sometimes not, on the Quad).

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From: "richard.kuenz" <richard.kuenz@web.de>
Subject: AW: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Link yaboot at 1MB"
Date: October 22, 2017 at 12:21:06 AM PDT
To: Mark Balantzyan <mark.balantzyan@gmail.com>

Wy should it not be possible to boot from usb on dual g5 2.0?

Also, is there a bug in latest yaboot installer?
Strangely, when installing Sid on powermac g5 quad on the same harddrive where is main osx partition found, upon reboot yaboot would no longer find X and show only boot options ĺ for linux and c for cd drive. When i would install an wheezy install over sod, yaboot would again find X.



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-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Mark Balantzyan <mark.balantzyan@gmail.com>
Datum: 22.10.2017 02:59 (GMT+01:00)
An: John Ogness <powerpc@ogness.net>
Cc: Tony Breeds <tony@bakeyournoodle.com>, debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org, Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Betreff: Re: [PATCH] Revert "Link yaboot at 1MB"

My bad, correction on my last reply-all:

P.S. I understand that the new GRUB is likely not going to replace OpenFirmware, so I am requesting just to be able to still boot from USB + Firewire on the G5 Quad and USB on the G5 Dual 2.0 from the bootloader, and not have to manually drill into OF to do that.

I meant still boot from USB + FW on the Quad and still boot from FireWire on the G5 Dual 2.0, not still boot from USB on the G5 Dual! Arr, so confusing. Sorry. Thanks.

Mark



On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Mark Balantzyan <mark.balantzyan@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello everyone,

Long time no…erm.

"We are actually working on making GRUB the default bootloader for Debian
powerpc and ppc64. It is already the default bootloader when installing
on PREP/CHRP PowerPC machines.

There is still some work to do for Apple NewWorld machines though but
I am confident that this will be finished within the next few weeks.”

For added compatibility, I would please like to put forward that my (NewWorld?) G5 PMacs, have not been designed to be able to boot from USB. Firewire yes, but not USB. Most definitely one of them, that’s for sure. Therefore, this may affect OpenFirmware awareness(es) required for implementation in the new GRUB code. Namely, I would like to say please implement whatever’s needed to allow say, a G5 Pmac Quad to still boot from USB + Firewire, and a G5 Pmac Dual 2.0 to still boot from firewire from both bootloader and OF (open firmware).

I would like to clarify that I haven’t tried any of the installer images yet, so this is not a report of the project’s current functionality, but of stuff as recent as a stuffed-up wheezy Jessie combo installation that I still have (not under use).

P.S. I understand that the new GRUB is likely not going to replace OpenFirmware, so I am requesting just to be able to still boot from USB + Firewire on the G5 Quad and USB on the G5 Dual 2.0 from the bootloader, and not have to manually drill into OF to do that.

Thanks,
Mark 


On Oct 21, 2017, at 12:03 PM, John Ogness <powerpc@ogness.net> wrote:

On 2017-10-21, Tony Breeds <tony@bakeyournoodle.com> wrote:
This reverts commit f7a364631f2a8975ecca56668a19ee0a66c1ddcd.

An iBook G4 (PowerBook6,5) was unable to boot when linking to the
lower address. Revert back to 2MB.

Signed-off-by: John Ogness <powerpc@ogness.net>
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I could not find any references about _why_ yaboot was moved
from 2MB to 1MB. I did not bother to see how low I could get
it on my iBook. If 2MB is too high for some machine, I can
investigate to see how low I can go.

This was done as 'large' kernels couldn't be loaded as the RMA was too
fragmented.  Moveing it down to 1MB reclaimed just enough that we were
fine.

I assume that the yaboot-mainline and 1.3.17-4 tests we made with the
same kernel/intrd combination.

Yes. From Debian/sid, linux-image-4.13.0-1-powerpc version 4.13.4-2.

Can you get me a dump of your RMA memory properties and sizes of the
kernel and initrd?

I'm not sure what you mean by "RMA memory properties" or how best to
"dump" them. Here is some information retrieved from OpenFirmware...

excerpt from 'printenv':
real-mode? false
real-base -1
real-size -1
load-base 0x800000
virt-base -1
virt-size -1
ram-size 0x30000000

excerpt from 'dev /memory' '.properties':
available 00003000 2fbed000

The initrd.img is 18,543,719 bytes.
The decompressed initrd.img is 48,723,456 bytes.
The vmlinux is 11,868,000 bytes.

John Ogness






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