On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs > > (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The > > rationale is summarized in > > http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know > > about issues with these changes on some of the Debian ports, and if > > we need to disable one of these changes on some port. > > > --no-add-needed sounds like it'll cause a *lot* of build failures for no > particular gain. I don't think it's a good idea. This change will definitely cause a lot of link failures; having some concrete numbers to determine how many would be quite useful here, e.g. from an archive-wide rebuild. Example failure case: #593876 libboost-filesystem-dev: Undeclared indirect dependency of boost_filesystem on boost_system causes link failure While --no-copy-dt-needed-entries does "fix" programs depending upon indirect linkage, this is something we've been relying on for over a decade and has worked quite well in practice. While strict correctness is nice to have, and I've already fixed my programs to work with strict linking, I'm not entirely sure why indirect linking is that bad in practice. Note that in the above Boost example, you get caught out just due to some inline functions in headers resulting an a completely unexpected additional dependency, so the need for linking is there, but would have otherwise been happily satisfied indirectly. Also, it means that the user of a library needs to be intimately aware of its internals which is not good. If the Boost filesystem library changes how it works but without changing its public interface, I could be screwed again in six months time. This is partly the fault of Boost for exposing its internals in its headers, but disallowing indirect linking make it worse. Overall, it could be for the best, but it will be painful initially. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `- GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail.
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