Hi Harold, First things first, could you stop Cc'ing the bug-report which goes to debian-boot@lists.debian.org and just reply to debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org? Thanks, you will do me a favor. :) Because we are (actually, I am) not welcome in debian-installer. I have virtually (because I believe they can still say something technically interesting aside bothering politics) killfiled 3 people already in Debian (2 are from debian-installer). :( On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 11:20:03AM -0700, Harold Johnson wrote: > Does anyone know of an online tutorial, designed for laymen, on how to > install and use miBoot? I'm tech-savvy but somewhat obtuse when it comes to > compiling and all that, but I can get through the task (which is kind of > fun, actually) once I have enough of a starting point. Unfortunately, I'm > not finding that starting point. Unfortunately, you will not find anything yet. We are still at a reverse-engineering stage. More to come these weeks, I promise. :) > Here are some of the resources I've gathered on installing/using miBoot. > There's the debootloaders index pointed to previously in this thread: > > ftp://alioth.debian.org/pub/debootloaders/miboot/ > > A HOWTO document there appears to be very thorough, for those who know a > thing or two about compiling/building software. Again, I'd gladly follow > this process, if I even knew where to begin. I've performed a "make" and a > "./configure" and a "make install" before, but only by following > step-by-step instructions for building relatively simple pieces of software. It was quickly written by Piotr and it is not usable as-is. It explains why it is not in SVN yet. You can read the miBoot list archives to understand the situation better at <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debootloaders-miboot/> and of course subscribe. I am working on Debian ready cross-compilers packages for the miBoot package build-dependencies. > > I booted from the CD image I downloaded from the following location: > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10972 > > The image I selected was "miBoot image, Linux kernel 2.4.27 (incl. Debian > Sarge installer)". This is able to boot my PowerBook G3 "Wallstreet 2", but > only for a few seconds before the menu goes kaput. Examining the image more > closely today, I've found that the CD is intended to boot NuBus PowerMacs; > my PowerBook is an OldWorld, so it won't work for my machine. Very interesting URL for Nubus, of course... I will look at it more throughly... > Then there's the floppy images (also mentioned previously on this list), > which I'm now going to try: > > http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc-miboot/daily/powerpc/floppy/ > > Still, I have to figure out how to make the physical floppies out of these > images. That I'm sure I can figure out, but it's unclear to me whether they > are intended to work for my particular setup (an OldWorld PowerBook G3 > "Wallstreet"). What you seek, I think, is how to produce those floppy images. If it is the case, the code you seek is in the debian-installer SVN repository: <http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/>. The one the d-i folks do not want me to touch, even if I am part of the new miBoot developers team... It is their win and my loss, I cannot help it. ;) > Again, my purpose in this message is to inquire about some generally > easy-to-follow documentation any of you may know of regarding how to install > and use miBoot, so that I may then install and use Debian on my OldWorld > PowerBook. I've searched the web using a variety of search engines, and > though there is certainly some information out there, much of the resources > I've stumbled onto are difficult for the non-programmer to understand. I > would be willing to compose a layman's version of the steps required to get > miBoot going, but I need to first understand how to install and use it > myself. I understand perfectly what you want as it is our purpose, but it is not possible for now. :) Thanks for your support, it is really appreciated. Cheers, -- .''`. Aurélien GÉRÔME : :' : `. `'` Free Software Developer `- Unix Sys & Net Admin
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