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Re: Bug#365010: Xserver G5 usb keyboard not loaded ...

On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 03:58:17AM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 08:28:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Notice also that both you and Colin Watson, where donated pegasos machines,
> > (and guess who arranged that), so the unavailability of a decent build machine
> > is no excuse.
> I can't speak for the other guys, but I have a Pegasos machine (sitting
> under my desk at the moment, actually), sent to me by yourself.  You
> offered it to me when I told you that I had no powerpc machines, and
> thus couldn't test X with PowerPC.  I made it very, very clear to you
> that I could not guarantee that the machine would ever get turned on,
> let alone used productively.  Repeatedly.  You said that was fine.


> However, you then got upset when Pegasos support lapsed, and ripped into
> me for not doing enough to fix it, given that you sent me an ODW.  So, I

Notice that first, this was an ubuntu matter, and i got upset, not because you
didn't get the pegasos/X support fixed in a timely way, but because my patches
sent to the ubuntu BTS where coldly received, and even ignored until i pushed

> can't help but think, maybe this is another case where people explicitly
> told you that they couldn't ensure the machine was used productively,
> but you still got upset when it wasn't?

Joey Hess received a machine in order to do daily d-i powerpc tests. This was
the exact wording, and it was an additional machine outside of the first
donation. I know since then that his machine broke, for whatever reason, some
time ago, but he never informed me of this (we would have replaced it), and i
only knew about this in Helsinki, and if he would have told me about this a
week before, i would have swapped it out. The 4 machines i had in Heslinki for
debconf admin purpose where all donated to to debian or skolelinux purpose,
except the one where i burned the power supply, and supposedly the debconf
assurance would have covered.

So, with all that said, do you still believe it is normal that a perfectly
running daily build was rejected in maybe a few minutes/hours after i sent
that email, while i had offered to continue running it until a proper
replacement was found, and some unstable solution has been used ever since,
which doesn't even include to this day the miboot support ? 


Sven Luther

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