Re: Finnish X11 keymap on iMac?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Saturday 16 August 2003 10:00, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > > > > I'd be interested to know what the linux scancodes and X keycodes are
> > > > > for these keys on i386 Linux. Are you able to try these on a PC? If
> > > > > so, try these commands on both:
> > > > >
> > > > > # from the console, then press the <>| and §½¶ keys
> > > > > $ showkey -s
> > > > > $ showkey -k
> > > >
> > > > See attached files.
> > >
> > > OK, I need you to annotate these files. Write in the codes that you get
> > > depending on which key you press. Otherwise, it's just guesswork for us.
> >
> > It's as much guesswork for me. I press them in the order: normal, shift,
> > altgr. first lesser/greater/pipe, then paragraph/half/degree.
>
> Well, you knew the order in which you pressed the keys, I didn't. Try it
> again, but this time, only press the <>| (no Shift or Alt) and record the
> output (should be a pressed/released pair). Then do the same for §½¶. Then
> send the results here labeled with what keys you pressed.
Getting those glyphs _require_ usage of shit and altgr,as they are on the same
key!
> > > > The console-data mac-usb-fi keymap uses the Left_alt as Mode_switch and
> > > > makes the left Apple key into a Left_alt, which works very well.
> > >
> > > Perhaps it works well for you, but it is very confusing for someone who
> > > sits at a new keyboard and looks at the keys to find out what they should
> > > do.
> >
> > It works well, from the perspective that it provides nearly the same
> > physical kjeycaps location as a PC, that is the key just left of spacebar
> > is used to change console, in conjunction with ctrl. it makes a LOT of
> > sense.
>
> It does make a lot of sense if the desired behavior is to mimic the physical
> key location of a PC keyboard. But it is at the expense of matching the
> printed keys.
> I think that it would be a good option to have the behavior you expect,
> though.
It is the default behavior of the console-data map.
> > > OK, so to switch the left Alt key to act like a PC's AltGr key (and let
> > > you type the third letters on the keys), plus use the left Apple logo key
> > > as an Alt key, put the following in your .Xmodmap and run `xmodmap
> > > ~/.Xmodmap`:
> > >
> > > keycode 64 = Mode_switch
> > > keycode 115 = Alt_L
>
> Did you try this xmodmap? What was the result?
It seems to work, but does not offer a lasting solution. Running xmodmap at
every login is not exactly practical.
--
Martin-Éric Racine
http://www.pp.fishpool.fi/~q-funk/
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