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Bug#1107137: Distinguish "native source packsge" from "native version number"



Hello,

On Sun 22 Jun 2025 at 06:40pm +01, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Does your mail client have the ability to quote a diff hunk from one
> of my patch attachments?

That's what I normally do, and there was no particular reason I didn't
do it this time.  My apologies.

>>     A native source package is one that does not distinguish between
>>     Debian packaging releases and upstream releases
>
> This old text is in ch-source.rst.  But it talks about "releases"
> which is ambiguous: do we mean version numbers or representation in
> the physical source package?

Ah.  If you make it "making a Debian package release and making an
upstream release" then I think that removes the ambiguity.  That is how
I was implicitly reading it, I think.

>>     there may be multiple Debian package versions associated with a
>>     single upstream release version and sharing the same upstream source
>>     tar files.
>
> Again this is the old text in ch-source.rst.  Again, this old text
> conflates source package format with versiooning.  "Associated" is
> imprecise.

I don't see how this conflates source package format with versioning.
So far as I can see, it only talks about versioning.

>> seems easier to understand than
>>
>>     Successive updates to the package within Debian, based on the same
>>     upstream version ...
>
> This is a quote from my new text for ch-controlfields.rst.  So this is
> not supposed to be a direct replacement for the text above.

Okay, then forget about this part, I misunderstood it as being a
replacement.

> I'm happy to change it to something else.  We could use "upstream
> release" but of course that assumes that every upstream version in
> Debian corresponds to something that upstream think of as a release,
> which is wrong in a different way.

The fact that we sometimes package non-releases seems minor and not
worth complicating things over, but using "upstream source" to avoid it
is fine with me.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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