Hello, On Mon 08 May 2023 at 12:52PM -07, Russ Allbery wrote: > Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> writes: >> On Mon 08 May 2023 at 08:48AM -07, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> In other words, dpkg-divert is primarily for local administrators, >>> non-Policy-compliant local packages that are doing unusual things, and >>> the occasional rare problem that requires special coordination between >>> packages, not something that Debian packages should be doing to other >>> packages without explicit coordination. > >>> The rule about systemd and udev files doesn't entirely fall out of that >>> statement, > >> Hmm, could you explain why? > > It didn't fall out of the above statement because the systemd unit file > may not be shipped with the systemd package, but by some other random > package, so you could have an explicit coordination with the package that > provides the unit file but still be doing something that the systemd > maintainers don't want to support. > > I think it does fall out of the somewhat squishier statement that you > shouldn't use diversions when there's some other available mechanism to > accomplish the same goal. Thanks, I see. I agree that we should have the latter statement. >> I don't mean to dismiss the significant impact on the systemd >> maintainers that's being claimed, but specifically calling out udev and >> systemd configuration files seems strangely specific, for Policy, to me. > > I think they're a special case of the general rule that if there's some > mechanism other than diversions to do what you want, you should use it > instead, but it's such a common special case that we should call it out > explicitly, particularly since a lot of people right now don't seem to > know about masking or drop-ins. So in other words, I think I basically > agree with this, but I think it's worth spending some words on systemd and > udev, more as a communication strategy than anything else. Okay cool, I'm glad you're happy with my "For example ..." thing. -- Sean Whitton
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