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Bug#628515: marked as done (recommending verbose build logs)

Your message dated Thu, 02 Aug 2018 02:43:10 +0000
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and subject line Bug#628515: fixed in debian-policy 4.2.0.0
has caused the Debian Bug report #628515,
regarding recommending verbose build logs
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Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.9.2.0
Severity: normal

[https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/03/msg00016.html]

It was suggested to move this to debian-policy.

It's always interesting to look at build logs, or to receive bug reports of the form

  CC
  <compiler error message>

or

  CCLD
  <linker error message>

without knowing how the compiler or the linker were called.  Maybe it is
convenient for a package maintainer watching the build scrolling by (some of
these are even colorized), but lacking this kind of information in the first
place seems to be the wrong thing.  So please let us deprecate this anti-feature
and recommend verbose build logs by default and only turn them off by request
(e.g. with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noverbose).

The only reason (I know) for needing quiet builds logs should be handled
depending on the buildd (e.g. if sending/emailing a large log is unreliable).

The majority of quiet build logs comes from cmake based systems and (newer)
automake based systems, so maybe this could be handled by cdbs and debhelper for
the majority of packages.  Other proposals how to include the important
information would be welcome.

I would like to see a finalized proposal as a "soft" release goal, or a release
recommendation.

  Matthias

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Source: debian-policy
Source-Version: 4.2.0.0

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-policy, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 628515@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> (supplier of updated debian-policy package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Format: 1.8
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 09:43:33 +0800
Source: debian-policy
Binary: debian-policy
Architecture: source
Version: 4.2.0.0
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Policy Editors <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
Description:
 debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
Closes: 459427 628515 813471 873456 876075 879048 886258
Changes:
 debian-policy (4.2.0.0) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Policy: Standards-Version field is mandatory
     Wording: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
     Seconded: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
     Seconded: Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org>
     Closes: #886258
   * Policy: Builds should be verbose & 'terse' DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS flag
     Wording: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
     Seconded: Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
     Seconded: David Bremner <bremner@debian.org>
     Seconded: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
     Closes: #628515
   * Policy: Required targets may attempt some network access
     Wording: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
     Seconded: David Bremner <bremner@debian.org>
     Seconded: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>
     Seconded: Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net>
     Closes: #813471
   * Policy: Installation of upstream release notes and changelogs
     Wording: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
     Seconded: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
     Seconded: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
     Seconded: David Bremner <bremner@debian.org>
     Closes: #459427
 .
   * Add a third paragraph to 1.3.3 encouraging the submission of patches
     to document new techniques sooner rather than later, while making it
     clear that updating the Policy Manual should never block making other
     improvements to Debian.
   * Tweak wording in a sentence in 1.1.
   * Add a note to the README about why salsa merge requests are turned off.
 .
   * Stop installing policy-1.html because Sphinx's singlehtml output is
     too buggy at present (Closes: #873456, #876075, #879048).
     See also #877367.  Thanks to Paul Wise for switching the web mirrors
     away from policy-1.html.
 .
   * license-count: improve regex for some Creative Commons licenses.
     Thanks Jonathan Dowland for the patch.
   * Fix some indentation in ch-archive.rst.
     Thanks Hideki Yamane for the patch.
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