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Bug#535577: marked as done (Add explicit policy for user-generated data on purge)

Your message dated Fri, 11 Aug 2017 12:44:51 -0700
with message-id <87o9rlx51o.fsf@iris.silentflame.com>
and subject line Closing inactive Policy bugs
has caused the Debian Bug report #535577,
regarding Add explicit policy for user-generated data on purge
to be marked as done.

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Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.8.2.0
Severity: wishlist

Currently, policy is rather unclear on what to do with user-generated
content, such as the content of databases, on purge.  Afaics, the only
cases that are mentioned are those of conffiles and log files (both of
which are to be removed at purge).

I would argue that databses and such should NOT be removed on purge
without asking the user explicitly

The immediate cause of me filing this bug, was the apt-get upgrade I
just did, which upgraded postgres-8.3 to postgres-8.4 on my system.
However, postgres apparently doesn't automatically migrate the user
data to the next version, but still postgress-8.3 was marked as
candidate for autoremoval.  When I autoremoved the packages (with
--purge), I did't notice postgres-8.3 in the list, an I certainly
didn't expect it to eat my databases without asking me first.
Sure, I should have paid more attention, but I still think that we
shoudl try to protect users like me from themselves liek this, and at
least _ask_ before removing databases (and other data).

Please let me know what you think,
Bas.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-rc3 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

debian-policy depends on no packages.

debian-policy recommends no packages.

Versions of packages debian-policy suggests:
ii  doc-base                      0.9.3      utilities to manage online documen

-- no debconf information

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control: user debian-policy@packages.debian.org
control: usertag -1 +obsolete
control: tag -1 +wontfix

Russ Allbery and I did a round of in-person bug triage at DebConf17 and
we are closing this bug as inactive.

The reasons for closing fall into the following categories, from most
frequent to least frequent:

- issue is appropriate for Policy, there is a consensus on how to fix
  the problem, but preparing the patch is very time-consuming and no-one
  has volunteered to do it, and we do not judge the issue to be
  important enough to keep an open bug around;

- issue is appropriate for Policy but there does not yet exist a
  consensus on what should change, and no recent discussion.  A fresh
  discussion might allow us to reach consensus, and the messages in the
  old bug are unlikely to help very much; or

- issue is not appropriate for Policy.

If you feel this bug is still relevant and want to restart the
discussion, you can re-open the bug.  However, please consider instead
opening a new bug with a message that summarises and condenses the
previous discussion, updates the report for the current state of Debian,
and makes clear exactly what you think should change.

A lot of these old bugs have long side tangents and numerous messages,
and that old discussion is not necessarily helpful for figuring out what
Debian Policy should say today.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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