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Bug#707851: marked as done (debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files)

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and subject line Bug#707851: fixed in debian-policy 3.9.8.0
has caused the Debian Bug report #707851,
regarding debian-policy: soften the wording recommending menu files
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--- Begin Message --- 
Package: debian-policy
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

In the default desktop installation of Debian, the Debian menu is
actively hidden (On GNOME by a patch to gnome-menus). 

In the - I think - most common alternate used desktop setup (KDE Plasma 
Desktop), the Debian menu looks like a weird icon-less graft-on mostly
duplicating what is already in the menu structure elsewhere. And there
is people around KDE in Debian considering the same approach as Gnome.

And it is probably similar for many other window managers and desktop
environments.

Also, many popular packages have stopped providing menu-files for the
Debian menu.

So let's soften the wording a little around debian menu files in policy
so that people don't feel like they *have* to create menu files that
aren't much used.

So, I would suggest the following:

--- a/policy.sgml
+++ b/policy.sgml
@@ -7984,20 +7984,8 @@ Reloading <var>description</var> configuration...done.
       <sect id="menus">
        <heading>Menus</heading>
 
-       <p>
-         The Debian <tt>menu</tt> package provides a standard
-         interface between packages providing applications and
-         <em>menu programs</em> (either X window managers or
-         text-based menu programs such as <prgn>pdmenu</prgn>).
-       </p>
-
-       <p>
-         All packages that provide applications that need not be
-         passed any special command line arguments for normal
-         operation should register a menu entry for those
-         applications, so that users of the <tt>menu</tt> package
-         will automatically get menu entries in their window
-         managers, as well in shells like <tt>pdmenu</tt>.
+       <p>Packages can, to be compatible with legacy debian additions
+         to some legacy window managers, provide a menu file.
        </p>
 
        <p>


Thank you for considering

/Sune

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message --- 
Source: debian-policy
Source-Version: 3.9.8.0

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-policy, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 707851@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-policy package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:26:05 -0800
Source: debian-policy
Binary: debian-policy
Architecture: source all
Version: 3.9.8.0
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Don Armstrong <don@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
Closes: 707851
Changes:
 debian-policy (3.9.8.0) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Policy: The Debian menu is optionally supported.
     Wording: Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org>
     Seconded: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com>
     Seconded: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> (for the menu entries)
     Seconded: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
     Closes: #707851
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