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Bug#707851: Debian Menu Systems : Implementation of the TC decision



On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 11:39:47AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mardi, 29 septembre 2015, 02.10:01 Guillem Jover a écrit :
> > Wow, this is such terrible policy… So we have supporters of the XDG
> > format, and supporters of the menu format. Some of those would and
> > have accepted files of their non-preferred format in their packages,
> > some have outright refused them. But now they have to choose between
> > one of them, because they can no longer ship both.
> 
> One of the points of the TC decision is precisely to avoid a "free 
> choice" between the two formats. The first point of that decision is to 
> adopt ba679bff76f5b9152f43d5bc901b9b3aad257479 in the Debian Policy, 
> which contains:
> > Packages shipping applications that comply with minimal requirements
> > described below for integration with desktop environments should
> > register these applications in the desktop menu, (…)
> 
> Applications "should" be registered in the FreeDesktop menu if that 
> makes sense. The second point of the TC decision (which phrasing to be 
> committed in the Debian Policy we're currently discussing) is to forbid 
> applications that do provide XDG menu entries to _also_ provide "trad 
> menu" entries.

So, I'm with Guillem on this one.

Saying that the FreeDesktop menu should be the default and "source"
format, I wholeheartedly support that choice. Making it clear that not
shipping a .menu file is not a bug, and that it is a bug (not
necessarily RC, but still) for a window manager to not look at the fdo
menu? Sure, great policy.

But _forbidding_ maintainers who want to from shipping a second file, if
that somehow makes the experience of menu users better than what the fdo
menu would have given them? Sorry, but that seems petty and silly.

I don't think I'll encounter the issue, seen as none of my packages ship
any menu entry, let alone a .desktop file, today. But yeah, it's
something I think I'll blatantly ignore if/when the time comes.

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