Bug#707851: Please resume discussion on #707851 or defer decision to the TC.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:36:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Dear Andreas, Bill, Jonathan, and Russ,
>
> I am contacting you in your role as Policy Editors, about bug #707851.
>
> After almost one year of work, discussion and consensus-building, a proposal
> was made to describe the FreeDesktop menu system in the Policy, and to alter
> the description of the Debian menu system to reflect the fact that it is not
> used by default on Stable and Unstable's default desktop, and that in Unstable
> it is not installed by default anymore.
The proposal never reached consensus. Instead objections by several people
were systematically ignored. Thus I did not find worthwhile to get involved in
the discussion anymore. I listed a number of people objecting already.
Claiming this is only me is unfair.
> The proposal was seconded by enough Debian Developers and Russ allowed for
> applying it to the Policy. Bill then opposed and reverted the changes after
> the discussion ended.
The state of the GIT repository is a technical matter than should be left to
the discretion of the policy maintainer.
> Unfortunately, Bill has been unavailable for discussing a resolution of this
> conflict, and this has the same consequence as a final veto, which I do not
> think is appropriate as a last-minute action for a proposal that has been
> debated and accepted.
As you know there is lot of backlog in policy. I am working to reduce it, and
I start with the bugs with obvious consensus first. I do not see why I should
prioritize this one: there are older issues waiting.
Now, if you like to move forward with this issue, I would suggest you start
to split it in smaller chunks, where consensus would be easier to find.
Secondly, if policy is going to mention the XDG menu system, someone should
volunteer to maintain the XDG menu system in Debian as a whole, to keep
some coherence. ".desktop" files from upstream software that are not part
of larger "desktop" project like GNOME and kDE tend to be of lower quality.
Thirdly, developpers that have stated publicly they were ignoring what policy
says about the menu system and would not apply patches to improve it, should
not involve themself in a discussion the outcome of which they are willing to
ignore. This is not conductive of good faith discussion.
Cheers,
--
Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>
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