Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 03:35:02PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Johnathan raises important concerns in
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=40;bug=628515
> These have never been addressed by any proponents of verbose build logs
> AFAIK.
The issue is that it is dangerous to upload packages built with a different
DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS than the one on the buildd.
So it is safer to keep the baseline at 'no options', otherwise all tools used
to build package (sbuild, pbuilder, etc.) need to be updated when the default
DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS change.
> I raise similar concerns in #680686. There is also discussion there of
> making dpkg-buildpackage produce a smart display for interactive builds
> (fleeting display of verbose messages with warnings separated out and
> highlighted) while logging the full verbose build. The dpkg maintainers
> have not indicated if they are willing to add that to dpkg-buildpackage.
>
> Also, there seems to be no consensus about what "verbose" means. Many
> build systems have multiple levels of verbosity. The closest this
> proposal comes to guidance about what level of verbosity is desired is
> to say we want compiler and linker command lines.
All the more reasons to have a wiki page that document the logging behaviour of
the common build systems.
Cheers,
Bill.
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