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Bug#622263: marked as done (debian-policy: Phrasing of 5.6.25 (DMUA) is confusing)

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and subject line Bug#622263: fixed in debian-policy 3.9.3.1
has caused the Debian Bug report #622263,
regarding debian-policy: Phrasing of 5.6.25 (DMUA) is confusing
to be marked as done.

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Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.9.2.0
Severity: normal

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Hi dear policy maintainers,

We just had a short discussion on IRC (#debian-python, 2011-04-11) about the
phrasing of the new 5.6.25 paragraph (which documents the DMUA field).

The current phrasing makes it sound that adding the DM-Upload-Allowed field
to each source package is required (where AFAIK it isn't).

I propose the following rephrasing:

- --- policy_orig.sgml    2011-04-11 16:33:25.000000000 +0200
+++ policy.sgml 2011-04-11 16:45:52.000000000 +0200
@@ -3700,11 +3700,11 @@
          <heading><tt>DM-Upload-Allowed</tt></heading>
 
          <p>
- -           The most recent version of a package uploaded to unstable or
- -           experimental must include the field <tt>DM-Upload-Allowed:
- -           yes</tt> in the source section of its source control file for
- -           the Debian archive to accept uploads signed with a key in the
- -           Debian Maintainer keyring.  See the General
+           The Debian archive will accept uploads signed with a key in
+           the Debian Maintainer keyring for a given package if and only
+           if the previous upload of said package had the
+           <tt>DM-Upload-Allowed: yes</tt> field included in the source
+           section of its source control file. See the General
            Resolution <url id="http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003";
            name="Endorse the concept of Debian Maintainers"> for more
            details.


Thanks for your consideration, cheers,

OdyX

=== IRC discussion abstract ===
[16:17] <jtaylor> standard 3.9.2 says one *must* set DM-Upload-Allowed yes, is that also the stance of the python modules team?
[16:19] <OdyX> jtaylor: "must" in what sense ?
[16:20] <jwilk> "... to accept uploads signed with a key in the Debian Maintainer keyring." - that's quite an important part.
[16:20] <jwilk> I don't get why it had to be written in the Policy, but meh...
[16:21] <tumbleweed> It seems sensible to have non-X fields in the policy
[16:22] <morph_work> sure, but it seems to be required for every package
[16:22] <jtaylor> odyx: must is the wording of the policy
[16:22] <jtaylor> no should
[16:23] <jtaylor> I always though that field was something set by the sponsor
[16:24] <OdyX> jtaylor: read the entire phrase. It could be reformulated as "a DM whose key is in the debian-maintainers keyring can upload package if and only if this package has previously been uploaded to experimental or unstable with the DMUA flag set to yes."
[16:24] <tumbleweed> such a rephrasing would probably be sensible
[16:24] <jtaylor> ah
[16:24] <jtaylor> yes
[16:24] <morph_work> and clearer
[16:25] <OdyX> who fires reportbug ?
[16:25] <jtaylor> I as relative new to debian packaging did not know
that sponsored packages are signed with the sponsors key
[16:25] <jtaylor> so I misunderstood that :(


- -- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.38-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_CH.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

debian-policy depends on no packages.

debian-policy recommends no packages.

Versions of packages debian-policy suggests:
ii  doc-base                      0.10.1     utilities to manage online documen

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Source: debian-policy
Source-Version: 3.9.3.1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-policy, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

debian-policy_3.9.3.1.dsc
  to main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.9.3.1.dsc
debian-policy_3.9.3.1.tar.gz
  to main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.9.3.1.tar.gz
debian-policy_3.9.3.1_all.deb
  to main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.9.3.1_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 622263@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-policy package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 15:02:12 -0800
Source: debian-policy
Binary: debian-policy
Architecture: source all
Version: 3.9.3.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
Description: 
 debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
Closes: 490604 601839 622263 638060 647645 658009 661412
Changes: 
 debian-policy (3.9.3.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Fix cross-reference to control field syntax in Policy 5.4 (source
     package control files).  Thanks, Jakub Wilk.  (Closes: #661412)
   * Additional wording improvements to copyright-format 1.0 for clarity.
     Also mention that the Files pattern syntax is the same as fnmatch(3)
     and GNU find -path without [] patterns.  Thanks, Jonathan Nieder and
     Ben Finney.
   * Suggest checkbashisms from devscripts or the posh shell for checking
     whether /bin/sh scripts are Policy-compliant rather than recommending
     dash.  Thanks, Raphael Geissert.  (Closes: #490604)
   * Remove the ambiguous word "installed" when requiring that the location
     of files and directories follow the FHS.  (Closes: #638060)
   * Clarify the syntax of field names to make it clear that they may not
     contain spaces.  Thanks, Charles Plessy.  (Closes: #647645)
   * Clarify that only one of build-arch or build-indep may be provided
     (currently, at least) and that build should depend on whichever exist
     or perform the equivalent actions.  Thanks to Jonathan Nieder for some
     of the wording.  (Closes: #601839)
   * Clearly state that "yes" is the only valid value of DM-Upload-Allowed
     and rewrite its description to be less indirect.  (Closes: #622263)
   * Update the dpkg-buildpackage -r documentation in the appendix to
     reflect the current behavior of using fakeroot.  Wording from Sam
     Morris.  (Closes: #658009)
   * Fix the legal notice in copyright-format to not refer to a nonexistent
     copyright notice.
   * Embed the Debian Policy version and build date in the debconf
     specification and the copyright-format document.  We'll make
     non-normative changes without updating other version numbers, and it's
     good to know which version one is looking at.
   * Fix some whitespace issues in the debconf specification articleinfo.
   * Install the HTML version of upgrading-checklist in the policy.html
     directory as upgrading-checklist.html so that it can be deployed on
     www.debian.org in a way that will allow links to Policy sections to
     work easily.  Thanks, Charles Plessy.  (Partly addresses #639663)
   * Ship the copyright-format source as copyright-format.xml.tar.gz
     without a version, since it will include all of the versions, not just
     the current version.
   * Fix mistaken word choice (prefix instead of suffix) in the upgrading
     checklist entry for 3.9.3.0.
   * Add some missing entries to the virtual package names list changelog.
   * Expand package long description to include all documents.
   * Remove unused substitution variable generated by the build.  Thanks,
     Charles Plessy.
   * Strip down and reformat debian/rules to remove unused variables,
     references to old files no longer included, use a more standard
     layout and standardize variable names, and add comments for better
     maintainability.
   * Convert debian/copyright to copyright-format 1.0, and in the process
     add the license information for the documents other than Policy itself
     and the FHS.  Note the implication of the GPL source code requirement
     for distributing generated versions of the Policy documents.
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