On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 08:42:45AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > in a private discussion, you asked me more feedback about the changes > you proposed. I waited before answering, because I wanted to read more > comments from others, and my mistake was probably to not notify you > that I was waiting. > > This morning I see that the french l10n team is translating your > changes, that you already committed. I suppose that the discussion is > over. > > I write this email to inform other readers that you committed you > changes. Charles, I'm sorry you took that badly this change by Raphael. At the same time, we can probably all learn something from this exchange, so that future changes to the devref are more pleasant. Here are a few comments of mine, after re-reading all this bug log: - Activism is good. We need people that drive changes (all over Debian, not only to devref). Sure enough we won't always like what the activists propose, but we should try hard to debate the merit of the proposals rather than changes per se, as the latter will only discourage *everybody* to make further changes. - As a consequence of the above, accusation not related to the proposed changes should be avoided. In particular, I don't see a problem when people ask me to comment as DPL; actually, I generally *encourage* people to do so! - Short deadlines for a bug which has been stalled for years do not help. - When asking for rough consensus, we should be ready to accept the result of that. What else do you think we can learn from this exchange? Please, everybody, let's try to keep active the development around devref, as we really need it! Thanks you all for your work. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhere ti resta John Fante -- V. Capossela .......| ..: |.......... -- C. Adams
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