Bug#484656: Fw: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 09:40:58 +0900
From: Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu
Le Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 12:35:34PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
>
>
> I think that writing a policy is the first necessary step and is the
> main thing required to move this conversation beyond a constantly
> recurring debian-devel thread and towards something that we can
> implement. Just saying "we should use .desktop files" is not
> sufficient; the standard isn't clear, Debian isn't following the
> standard currently, and there's no migration strategy. Closing those
> gaps is hard and necessary work, and until someone has a chance to do
> that work, this will stay stuck at the recurring conversation stage.
Le Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 09:44:29PM +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit :
>
> I am only the 'Debian menu maintainer' and I do
> not have time or interest to maintain the .desktop files in Debian.
> Instead people (not you) ask me transparently to stop maintaining menu
> and maintain the .desktop files instead, but no one is willing to do
> the work. (And of course .desktop is about 10% of the XDG spec).
Hi all,
>From my maintainer point of view, the current situation leads to
maintain in parallel two files with similar information and different
syntax, with the main difference being that in the .desktop -> .menu
conversion the translations are discarded. The big advantage of the
.desktop format is also that it can be forwarded upstream, so that it
reduces the complexity of our packages and is useful to the whole
communauty. This is exactly the contrary of adding a burden on the
Debian maintainers and Bill.
I think that Russ is very pessimistic on the quality of the XDG
desktop entry sepcification. It uses a simple syntax and 18 different
keys, only 4 of them being required. Many of the Lintian errors noted
earlier in this thread are related to the desktop menu specification,
which is a separate document.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/
Now we are close to Lenny release, and there is enough to keep us very
busy until September, but after this, if Bill is interested, how about
writing a DEP (Debian Enhancement Proposal)?
Have a nice day,
--
Charles Plessy
Debian-Med packaging team,
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
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