On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:42:06AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:
> > It also includes, but afaics, probably doesn't need to (anymore):
> > ispell, dictionaries-common, iamerican, ibritish, wamerican
> > m4, texinfo (???)
> texinfo possibly for info and dating from the days of needing to have an
> info reader to get real documentation for many of the GNU tools?
But texinfo only includes:
/usr/bin/texi2pdf
/usr/bin/texindex
/usr/bin/texi2dvi
/usr/bin/ginstall-info
/usr/bin/makeinfo
The info browser is in the info package (which is priority:important)...
> > mtools (access unmounted msdos filesystems, not NTFS though)
> Probably obsolete at this point.
> > pidentd (is IDENT still used on today's internet, with all its NAT?)
> > openbsd-inetd (needed by pidentd)
> identd is still used somewhat, mostly with IRC, but it's almost certainly
> optional rather than standard.
> > tcsh (people who remember what it is know how to install it)
> Having a /bin/csh falls into "present on all Unix systems and likely to
> provoke WTF reactions if not there."
Which isn't a requirement for "standard", but hey...
> Also, I'm pretty sure that tcsh is
> very comfortably the second-most-used interactive shell, way ahead of
> zsh, on Linux systems.
#rank name inst vote old recent no-files
2 bash 69802 58316 2596 8885 5
305 mailx 62713 16369 30995 15343 6
438 tcsh 60057 9042 37123 13886 6
488 mutt 59151 7662 32588 18895 6
555 mtools 60985 6035 40222 14723 5
570 reportbug 61436 5780 40836 14816 4
588 time 61236 5539 41423 14267 7
885 dash 11100 2615 7604 876 5
1014 zsh 3801 2002 1366 431 2
Of course, there's half a zillion different zsh packages that should have
their stats combined, but whatever.
I find it pretty surprising that somewhere between 1 in 8 systems
(vote/max(inst)) and 1 in 5 systems ((vote+old)/vote) still have tcsh
used recently tbh.
> > time (???)
> Likewise. time is a standard Unix program.
And which is a built-in on bash, tcsh and zsh, so doesn't seem terribly
useful most of the time... (not dash though)
Cheers,
aj
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