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Bug#254998: marked as done (Please follow policy 9.4 in printing "working" messages with ellipses ("..."))



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Subject: Please follow policy 9.4 in printing "working" messages with ellipses ("...")
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.10.22
Severity: minor

While it is working dpkg prints messages like these:

    Setting up foo (1.0) ...

Policy 9.4 gives the following advice for the writing of initscripts.

    If you want to express that the computer is working on
    something (that is, performing a specific task, not starting
    or stopping a program), we use an "ellipsis" (three dots:
    "..."). Note that we don't insert spaces before or after the
    dots. If the task has been completed we write "done." and a
    line feed.

Thus initscripts print messages like these:

    Initialising bar...done.

When packages are being installed initscripts sometimes get run;
thus one sees a mixture of dpkg-style "working" messages and
initscripts-style "working" messages.  Consistency of style would
be better aesthetically so I suggest that dpkg's messages be
changed to follow the policy for initscripts' messages.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (900, 'unstable'), (700, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7
Locale: LANG=en_IE@euro, LC_CTYPE=en_IE@euro

Versions of packages dpkg depends on:
ii  dselect                     1.10.22      a user tool to manage Debian packa
ii  libc6                       2.3.2.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an

-- no debconf information

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Hi,

        The fact that dpkg does not follow what the policy recommends
 is by no means a policy bug. It also is not clear that section 9.4
 applies to dpkg in the first place (dpkg is not an initscript). I
 understand the aesthetic motivation, but thefact that packages are
 sometimnes restarted during upgrades/installs and the dpkg output
 does not jell with initscript output does not imply that initscript
 output policy is somehow buggy. If you really think this is a bug,
 propose an alternative, along with a  transition plan.

	manoj
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Manoj Srivastava   <srivasta@debian.org>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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