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Re: Bug#282067: yes!



On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 22:27 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 04:54:27PM +0000, Colin Watson (cjwatson@debian.org) wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 06:05:39PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > also sprach Gergely Nagy <algernon@bonehunter.rulez.org> [2004.11.19.1802 +0100]:
> > > > Umm.. So if I have an NFS-shared $HOME, that I share between
> > > > Debian, various BSDs and commercial Unixes, I'll have to resort to
> > > > black magic to get some of my dotfiles appear where they need to,
> > > > on all of the systems I'm using them?
> > > 
> > > Use symlinks.
> > 
> > Or how about we all get a grip and stop making changes for the sake of
> > changes when the present situation works perfectly well and
> > interoperates well?
> 
>     $ ls -d . | wc -l
>     221
> 
> ...note that that includes . & .., so we're talking 219 dotfiles and
> directories.
> 
> Frankly, I'd like to see a $HOME cleanup.  Dotfiles are hard to manage,

For the past few years, I did not have any problems managing my
dotfiles, and I have quite a many (346 to be exact).

> there are possible conflicts between packages and user files, and it's
> tough just to come up with a good directory list recipie to show, say,
> just dotfiles and directories, excluding . and .., on the command line,
> without resorting to filters and/or pipes.

Pipes! Oh god! Run, run for your lives, he said pipes and filters!
Aaargh!

Sorry, I fail to see what's the problem with having to use pipes and
filters to... to what? To filter a list. That's what they are for to
begin with.

> I agree that policy is rather blunt for this to happen, but the desire
> needs to be expressed somewhere.

He who is not happy with the situation, can symlink their stuff from
$HOME to $HOME/etc already. If you're not happy with that, why should I
be happy with symlinking stuff from $HOME/etc to $HOME?

Especially if that's only on Debian, and the rest of the world is still
putting stuff into $HOME... (that is, if there's a way for migration, it
needs to start with persuading upstream authors that it needs to be
done. Until a considerable amount of software supports both locations,
there's no chance the opposing voices will go silent)

-- 
Gergely Nagy



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