Bug#212034: marked as done (Debina Perl Policy manual uses "dependency" backards)
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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:33:05 -0400
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The Debian Perl Policy manual
(file:/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/perl-policy.html/ch-perl.html)
uses the word "dependency" backwards. This error makes the documentation
hard to understand.
Per the The American Heritage Dictionary (via
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dependency), a dependency
is:
1. Dependence.
2. Something dependent or subordinate.
3. A territory under the jurisdiction of a state of
which it does not form an integral part.
In sense 2, if A depends on B, A is a dependency of B; (B is not a
dependency of A).
The Debian Perl Policy manual, in section 1.1, says:
Only one package may contain the /usr/bin/perl binary and that package
must either be perl or a dependency of that package (see Base Package,
Section 1.2).
Apparently, the intent was to say that perl or one of the packages perl
depends on must contain that binary. However, as written, it says that
some package that depends on perl must contains the binary.
Section 4.2 says:
As with modules, packages using debhelper may use dh_perl(1) to
automatically generate dependences[sic] (see Automating Perl
Dependencies, Section 3.4.3).
I don't know enough about dh_perl to know whether this is using
"dependencies" in sense 1 (in which case it's fine), or it it's using
it in sense 2, in which case it's backwards.
Section 5.2 says:
Dependencies for programs linking against the shared Perl library will
be automatically created by dpkg-shlibdeps.
Same comment.
Daniel
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Subject: Re: Bug#212034: Debina Perl Policy manual uses "dependency"
backards
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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:33:05 -0400, Daniel B <dsb@smart.net> said:
> Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.6.1
> The Debian Perl Policy manual
> (file:/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/perl-policy.html/ch-perl.html)
> uses the word "dependency" backwards. This error makes the
> documentation hard to understand.
> Per the The American Heritage Dictionary (via
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dependency), a dependency
> is:
> 1. Dependence.
This is the sense meant.
======================================================================
>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 [gcide]:
Dependency \De*pend"en*cy\, n.; pl. {Dependencies}.
1. State of being dependent; dependence; state of being
subordinate; subordination; concatenation; connection;
reliance; trust.
[1913 Webster]
So that they may acknowledge their dependency on the
crown of England. --Bacon.
[1913 Webster]
======================================================================
So if they have a dependency on the crown, it is they who need
the countenance of the crown, not the other way around.
> 2. Something dependent or subordinate.
> 3. A territory under the jurisdiction of a state of which it does
> not form an integral part.
> In sense 2, if A depends on B, A is a dependency of B; (B is not a
> dependency of A).
> The Debian Perl Policy manual, in section 1.1, says:
> Only one package may contain the /usr/bin/perl binary and that
> package must either be perl or a dependency of that package (see
> Base Package, Section 1.2).
Ie, a package for which a dependence relation ship exists,
something that perl depends on.
> Apparently, the intent was to say that perl or one of the packages
> perl depends on must contain that binary. However, as written, it
> says that some package that depends on perl must contains the
> binary.
Nope, perl has a dependency on this package X; like someone has
a dependency on the crown of england.
> Section 4.2 says:
> As with modules, packages using debhelper may use dh_perl(1) to
> automatically generate dependences[sic] (see Automating Perl
> Dependencies, Section 3.4.3).
> I don't know enough about dh_perl to know whether this is using
> "dependencies" in sense 1 (in which case it's fine), or it it's
> using it in sense 2, in which case it's backwards.
It declares any dependencies the package may have (for
example, to the crown of england ;-)
> Section 5.2 says:
> Dependencies for programs linking against the shared Perl library
> will be automatically created by dpkg-shlibdeps.
> Same comment.
Same explanation.
manoj
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