Bug#176506: marked as done ([AMENDMENT 2003/08/03] Make Debconf the standard for prompting the user)
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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
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Subject: Make debconf mandatory for prompting the user
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Package: debian-policy
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Your policy says:
<-- snip -->
...
2.3.9.1. Prompting in maintainer scripts
----------------------------------------
Package maintainer scripts may prompt the user if necessary.
Prompting may be accomplished by hand, or by communicating with a
program, such as `debconf', which conforms to the Debian Configuration
management specification, version 2 or higher.
...
<-- snip -->
I'm currently working on things like automated upgrading of many
(>> 100) computers. Debian already includes much infrastructure that
makes this task relatively cheap. For packages using debconf for
prompting the user it's easy to give the answers without pressing enter
on 100+ machines. It's a shame that most of the work is needed for
special casing the few packages not using debconf for prompting the
user.
I'm therefore suggesting that you change your policy to something like:
<-- snip -->
...
2.3.9.1. Prompting in maintainer scripts
----------------------------------------
Package maintainer scripts may prompt the user if necessary.
Prompting must be done through programs like `debconf' that
conform to the Debian Configuration management specification,
version 2 or higher.
...
<-- snip -->
There's one problem that will arise:
Essential packages prompting the user.
There are two possible solutions for this problem:
1. essential packages have to check whether debconf is available and if
yes have to use it
2. make debconf essential (it's already present on nearly every system
since many packages already depend on it; it should be possible to
remove the size of the debconf package by seperating separating
things like locales files away from the main package)
TIA
Adrian
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From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
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Subject: Bug#176506: fixed in debian-policy 3.6.1.0
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We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-policy, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:
debian-policy_3.6.1.0.dsc
to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.6.1.0.dsc
debian-policy_3.6.1.0.tar.gz
to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.6.1.0.tar.gz
debian-policy_3.6.1.0_all.deb
to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.6.1.0_all.deb
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to 176506@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
Debian distribution maintenance software
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Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-policy package)
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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 07:28:10 -0500
Source: debian-policy
Binary: debian-policy
Architecture: source all
Version: 3.6.1.0
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Description:
debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
Closes: 176506 187250 187297 188030 193748 200440 203728
Changes:
debian-policy (3.6.1.0) unstable; urgency=low
.
Josip:
* Removed obsolete section on obsolete constructs and libraries,
closes: #193748.
Manoj:
* Change reference to the debconf introduction from kitenet to a debian
hosted server. closes: Bug#187297
* Added myspell-dictionary to the virtual packages list closes: Bug#203728
* Fix the restart action in the init.d/bind example; it now uses
--oknodo so that the action does not fail when the service is not
running. closes: Bug#187250
* invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d are now in the sysv-rc package instead of
the sysvinit package. Fixed a reference in policy. closes: Bug#200440
* Note that postinst abort-remove is called if there is an error while
removing the package. closes: Bug#188030
* [AMENDMENT 2003/08/03] Make Debconf the standard for prompting the
user closes: Bug#176506
Files:
1a03f67a3afd331c290c41f5c0008441 798 doc optional debian-policy_3.6.1.0.dsc
7dbe3ca1df000212517bf29b0453aad2 569342 doc optional debian-policy_3.6.1.0.tar.gz
3759654780361dbc9f52c426e1e13c4f 1209866 doc optional debian-policy_3.6.1.0_all.deb
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