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Bug#112090: fw: Bug#112090: [PROPOSAL]: support reduced footprint debs at build time]



David Kimdon <dwhedon@gordian.com> writes:

> > 
> > This "hack" will be fixed as boot-floppies is deprecated with the post
> > woody release.  What's the point of putting it into policy?
> 
> Only reason is that this is something we obviously needed to do in the
> past, so it is reasonable to expect the need in the future.  Better to have
> a clean way of getting what we want.

Well, the clean way is the udebs we use in debian-installer.

> > >  - remove udeb's from the archive.  The debian-installer build system
> > >    will instead build the packages from source.
> > 
> > Why is this such a great thing?  udeb's live in their own tree.
> > Requiring all these packages to be built at debian-installer build
> > time seems to add undue headache to the the debian-boot folks and
> > porters.  I like that they are available separately in built form for
> > testing and use...
> 
> hmm, maybe it is just me then.  I think the udebs are inelegant.  In binary
> form they are used by very few people (true d-i at install time needs to
> download binaries, but I'd suggest they all get built when the boot disks
> are created).  They can't be installed on a normal Debian system. 
> 
> I see that we have a situation where we have created some specialized
> handling of certain packages.  If we can find a way to generalize that
> handling so that it will be useful to more people I'd call that a win.
> That is what I am proposing.

No, you're proposing making the debian-installer effort more
difficult, in the name of some kind of wierd abstract "elegance", the
only benefits of which are aesthetic.  At least, that's as far as I
can tell.

I guess I'd wanna hear Joey Hess weigh in, because I'm not involved in
the debian-installer effort.

-- 
...Adam Di Carlo..<adam@onshore-devel.com>...<URL:http://www.onshored.com/>




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