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Bug#90511: proposal] addressing objections (re: disallow multi-distribution uploads)



Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org> wrote:

> As for the first. Multi distributions occur so infrequently that it
> should not be a problem to do this. Most of the time a package is
> already diverged between stable and unstable, so two uploads are still
> required in that case for security fixes. Enforcing this just means we
> have more consistency. Allowing it for convenience makes no technical
> sense.

Perhaps this has been your experience (understably since you maintain a lot
of library packages that are actively developed).  However, im my
experience, I've certainly done my fair share of "stable unstabe" uploads,
and I do not welcome the prospect of having to double those just to solve
some non-existant problem.

> As for allowing them in cases where they don't fall into any of my
> listed points of breakage, I ask that you give a solid technical reason
> why even those should be allowed, other than simple convienience. I see
> no reason for it. In fact, the only technical reason was back when we
> had frozen/unstable uploads, and they do not occur any longer.

As I said, it is a good thing to have packages compiled against old libc-dev
packages since that actually tests whether libc6 has been true its words
when it says that its ABI is still the same.  In any case, IMHO the more
interesting question is why they shouldn't be allowed in this case?

However, my main objection to this proposal is that it solves none of your
problems as disallowing simultaneous uploads does not equate to disallowing
the building of unstable packages on stable.

So in fact you're proposing the wrong solution to your problems.  Which has
the unfortunate side effect that some maintainers will be wasting time
doing double compiles that they know will come out to be the same.
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