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Bug#109182: Removing more historical cruft

On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 02:52:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:38:49PM -0300, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
> > I have only one thing to add to that list: traceroute should be moved, _not_ to
> > /usr/bin as lots of people claim, but to /bin . It's as necessary and useful as
> > ping to diagnose networking trouble, and /usr might be mounted via NFS through
> > a gateway -- exactly what we want to diagnose. Same for the ipv6 versions of
> > ping and traceroute.
> In that case, you'd use "ping ga.te.wa.y" to check if the gateway's up,
> and "ping nfs.se.rv.er" to check if your NFS server is up. If either
> wasn't up, you'd call networking support, and find out what's going on,
> since you'd be rather insane to mount /usr from somewhere remote that
> you don't have control over.
> Moving traceroute at all has the same problems no matter where it's too,
> anyway. /sbin is no either than /bin or /usr/bin. ping6 is already in
> /bin, btw.
> This isn't a policy matter anyway: it only affects one
> package (traceroute), so it's something to take up with the
> maintainer. Personally, I wouldn't, since I don't think the above adds
> anything particularly profound to the debate.

This proposal was not about traceroute. It was about everything else (ifconfig,
route, mke2fs, e2fsck, etc -- everything a normal user runs and yet are at
sbin). The traceroute thing was just a footnote.

Cesar Eduardo Barros

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