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Bug#102204: marked as done ([ACCEPTED 2001/07/11] Downgrade emacs/tex to optional)



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Subject: [PROPOSAL] Downgrade emacs/tex to optional
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Package: debian-policy
Version: 3.5.5.0

This is a repeat of bug 53849, basically. The patch is the same, with the
dates and line numbers changed:

--- policy.sgml Fri Jun  1 19:40:16 2001
+++ policy.sgml.emacstex        Mon Jun 25 20:58:25 2001
@@ -764,10 +764,7 @@
                These packages provide a reasonably small but not too
                limited character-mode system.  This is what will be
                installed by default if the user doesn't select anything
-               else.  It doesn't include many large applications, but
-               it does include Emacs (this is more of a piece of
-               infrastructure than an application) and a reasonable
-               subset of TeX and LaTeX.</p>
+               else.  It doesn't include many large applications.</p>
            </item>
            <tag><tt>optional</tt></tag>
            <item>

The justification is slightly different: as of 2.2r3 (or so), and certainly
with woody, tasksel automatically selects all of standard. This means there's
no convenient way of avoiding getting emacs or TeX installed if they're in
standard.

In addition, removing the exceptions for TeX and emacs makes the
definition seem a little more sane. Further, emacs and TeX depend on
xlibs which isn't in standard any more, which violates the "Packages
must not depend on packaes with lower priority values" rules.

A TeX task will be provided (and has been since potato) to make those
people happier. I'm not sure if an emacs task should be too.

I think the above rebuts most of the arguments I and others made against
this proposal when it was 53849.

Comments? Seconds?

Cheers,
aj

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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 23:28:24 +0100
From: Julian Gilbey <J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk>
To: 100631-done@bugs.debian.org, 102199-done@bugs.debian.org,
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These bugs were closed by debian-policy 3.5.6.0.  Here is the
.changes file.

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:43:22 -0500
Source: debian-policy
Binary: debian-policy
Architecture: source all
Version: 3.5.6.0 
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Description:
 debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents
Closes: 53849 60461 72335 98291 100631 102199 102204 105535 105538 105625
Changes:
 debian-policy (3.5.6.0) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Change footnote about urgency values to the now-current list: low,
     medium, high, emergency.
   * Correct note about /etc/default files being conffiles/config files,
     which I mucked up (sorry Joey) [10.3.2]
   * [AMENDMENT 2001/06/26] Downgrade emacs/tex to optional
                                                   closes: Bug#102204, Bug#53849
   * [AMENDMENT 2001/06/26] Next stage in usr/doc -> usr/share/doc transition
                                                              closes: Bug#102199
 .
   * [AMENDMENT 09/06/2001] Clarifying FHS policy   closes: Bug#98291, Bug#60461
   * Spelling correction                                      closes: Bug#105625
   * [AMMENDMENT 28/06/2001] Restrict http access to /usr/share/doc
                                                              closes: Bug#100631
   * [AMENDMENT 23/5/2001] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for
     debian/rules                                             closes: Bug#72335
   * The old packaging manual is included in the policy document as an 
     informative appendix. It is not part of Debian Technical Policy, and
     its presence is a temporary measure until dpkg documentation includes
     ther information provided.                               closes: Bug#105535
   * Added information about optional blank lines in the chagelog format.
                                                              closes: Bug#105538
Files:
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 847698fb56a4015e8c01fff6e2549979 568045 doc optional debian-policy_3.5.6.0.tar.gz
 1c021ad67e4ca6c516ed92abf7194626 582528 doc optional debian-policy_3.5.6.0_all.deb
 9b36b824c66c396e6755932b2abc892d 91261 byhand - policy.txt.gz
 2930900bdf8160ce69a088a56af4cace 2138 byhand - menu-policy.txt.gz
 a3da1fbfdf72eca7b027057891e0a4cb 1561 byhand - mime-policy.txt.gz
 1d2430875f883293167d7485e9c6ff7f 4417 byhand - policy-process.txt.gz  
 2a62f4ed486185ba2d4dd8f9f1025e6d 4357 byhand - perl-policy.txt.gz
 2b8ceb66219172f7cb2a34bff5a395d0 99749 byhand - policy.html.tar.gz
 12c50aaf21b5607813d05eca35a75750 2759 byhand - menu-policy.html.tar.gz
 44838568cf22562f1669015d1dabfe76 2115 byhand - mime-policy.html.tar.gz  
 368690344dcee1495139ff6fff5fea81 5063 byhand - policy-process.html.tar.gz
 340c2df7326f04027844bac805c25cb6 5563 byhand - perl-policy.html.tar.gz
 4ec1bcd43a2c9f9981d2bc08dafb48ae 6120 byhand - debconf_specification.txt.gz
 753ce321854a513ff0cb3b279e548a1f 29941 byhand - debconf_specification.html
 3ed7aa5a489834b24bb28ff377a34aa9 10982 byhand - libc6-migration.txt
 b9ffc0d13d1467967d994288c4adc29b 7686 byhand - virtual-package-names-list.txt
 999105364cf441d21bb979469db2abba 174680 byhand - policy.ps.gz
 09e7a1c8473e068617d8b41a85612414 316812 byhand - policy.pdf.gz
 ebe19e49d89eb9edad98b9e6d3fc886e 16014 byhand - upgrading-checklist.txt
 93679f707ec4cbc94b6f667afb1f2600 34997 byhand - fhs-2.1.html.tar.gz
 300035e9df1e7fa8295a38fee2cf54c6 98312 byhand - fhs.txt

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   Julian

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