Bug#99933: Default charset should be UTF-8
On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 12:41:02PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote:
> > How can this person tell which kind of boldness is in use?
> mathematical symbols could use different typesetting convention
> (see latex)
But this should depend on mathematical context, not code point.
Or are you suggesting that latex shouldn't render ascii characters
using mathematical typesetting conventions?
> > Let's imagine that a person is actually reading this document. What
> > difference does it make to this person that the Unicode Consortium
> > has named the code point using the word MATHEMATICAL? How would the
> > person even find out about this?
> decent html browser would render mathematical symbols differently.
> But, of course, it need not, depeding on font used.
Again, this should depend on whether a mathematical context is
in use (e.g. mathematical equation). Unless (to use the same
example again) you wish to prohibit the use of ascii characters
in mathematical equations.
> > expression? If there was surrounding text describing the character of the
> > variables x, y, and z, would you insist on this contrived intepretation
> > of yours?
> I do not insist on it... but as you can see, without a context
> anything can be misinterpreted, and special symbols are just a tad
I'll agree that context is important. I'll agree that special symbols
I disagree with the idea that special symbols may only be used in
certain contexts. That's like saying that HTML should only be used
to describe the structure of a document and not its appearance --
fine language from a standards body, but with little to do with
how the standard is actually used.
> > If we assume that the user is using debian software which merely
> > displays the characters (and doesn't actually inform the user of
> > the unicode names for the underlying code points), would there be
> > any particular reason for the user to interpret some characters as
> > algebraic variables and others as word forming characters in some
> > unknown programming language (for some reason other than knowledge
> > of the unicode code point numbers)?
> this is just nitpicking... unicode is full of characters having the
> same glyphs how do you distinguish between LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A,
> CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER A, GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ALPHA ? they look
> the same in upright font, but if you select cursive font to view the
> document, they will look differently. The same with mathematical
> symbols... they might look the same with one font, but if you prefer
> slanted font, you suddenly see a difference... (or vice versa).