Re: cleaning up our task packages
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, John Galt wrote:
> First of all, what newbie is going to want to run a mailserver?
I don't know. And neither do you. Stranger things have happened. Should
they wish to install a mail server, Debian is making things a little
easier for them.
Running a
> mailserver is usually a job for a medium-level sysadmin: certainly not
> a job to add for someone trying to get comfortable with a system. Where's
> the equivalent task-POP?
>
I guess you haven't packaged it yet. It's nothing to do with me.
> In fact, it's more newbie oriented than task-imap. There were two
> possibilities allowed for a single package task, you took the wrong one
> and took offense.
The other one is pretty bogus too.
> I guess this is to cover the fact that the
> true reasoning behind task-imap is offensive to the user, as you prove
> later.
>
> See above: if he's really a newbie, whatinhell is he doing running an
> IMAP server in the first place?
>
Because he wants to? Who are we to judge who is worthy of runny a
mailserver or not. It's a task that people often want to do.
> This sounds like a problem of dselect, not an added function of tasksel.
>
Then please volunteer to fix dselect. In the mean time this is what we've
got.
> > having to think about which of the three or more IMAP servers in the
>
> THE >>>HELL<<< YOU'RE GOING TO USE TASKSEL TO REMOVE THE SYSADMIN'S
> "BURDEN" OF CHOOSING SYSTEM POLICY!!!!! I will fight you on this one
> unitl hell freezes over. The System Administrator is assumed competent to
> make their own decisions on their system, and NO DD has the right to
> override it or assume otherwise. Relieving the Sysadmin of "having to
> think" is assuming the sysadmin is stupid, and implying that YOU are the
> stupid one.
>
So I guess you won't be using task-imap then. Oh well.
When you come up with a better idea, I'll be happy to switch. It took me
about 10 minutes to create this package and I must have spent less than an
hour maintaining it so I don't have any particular attachment to it or
anything.
But please stop kvetching on the mailing lists and do something if you
expect anyone to listen.
--
Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>
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