RE: Priorities
> From: Joey Hess [mailto:joeyh@debian.org]
>
> Anthony Towns wrote:
<snip>
> > The *task* is really "usable 2d windowing environment for accessing
> > programs", it's not kde, or gnome, or xlib, or motif. Is it really
> > sensible to have the choice between the various windowing toolkits
> > made here? Would it be better/possible to have a task-desktop that
> > included both gnome and kde, and the best apps from both,
> and just let
> > the user use them? Obviously the packager would have to
> make a choice
> > amongst xdm, gdm and kdm, but that doesn't seem
> unreasonably difficult.
>
> Yes, probably. Remember, task packages arn't about choice, or rather
> they are about us making choices so a new user doesn't have to bother.
>
If task packages can provide choice, why not let them? The
task-gnome-desktop
(or something like that) package was helpful to me when I wanted to install
gnome, since it's made up of half-a-dozen packages. A task lets me just
trust
the developer, and assume that I'll get all of the neccessary packages to do
the job. If it was task-desktop, with all of the desktops and
windowmanagers in
it, it would be bloated to the point of being unusable.
<snip>
> > gnome-games
> > - i just want to play games, i don't care what toolkit they use
But you don't want to have a task which requires you to install both KDE and
GNOME,
just to play some games. A task that had all games in it would do it.
<snip>
> > python-web
> > - a general "i want to work on interactive web sites"
> task would make
> > sense to me (one that included, presumably, a free
> java, and zope,
> > and tomcat, and tools to do cgi in perl and python
> and whatever else)
> > but just for pythn? "apt-get install zope" if that's
> what you want.
Looking at task-python-web's packages, apt-get install zope wouldn't
get you everything you'd want for python web development.
>
> I think I agree with all of these. We should file bugs to get them
> removed.
>
What's the purpose of removing them? They can't take up very many HW
resources,
and presumably whoever's created them has done so for a purpose. If the
point
is to avoid confusing newcomers, why not just rename the "deviant" packages
to
some other name (e.g., "group-python-web", instead of "task-python-web")?
Dave
(p.s., I'm not subscribed to debian-policy, so please CC: me if you
respond).
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