Bug#42477: PROPOSED} delay the /usr/doc transition till after potato
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 12:55:46PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> And hey, when it comes down to it, this is just a proposal. My
> *primary* goal is to give the tech committee something else to
> consider if Manoj *does* send his proposal to them! :-)
>
> I think that with the number of seconds I've recieved (thanks guys!),
> this proposal is now too strong to ignore, even if it doesn't make it
> through the debates here. Which is really what I wanted. Formally
> object if you must -- I don't think it'll win you any friends, but it
> won't stop this proposal from filling *my* goals for it! :-)
I am seeing a serious problem here.
What bothers me is your "this is just a proposal". A proposal should always
be serious. Keep in mind that a proposal can actually become policy, and
determine the direction of the distribution.
That you consider your proposal primary as an alternative to be considered by
a committee that only steps in if the policy group fails is also something
that worries me a lot. The main intention of a proposal should be to provide
a workable solution that ultimatively (after a discussion period) has
support by the whole policy group. If people start filing proposals to
achieve something else (and I am not going to second guess anybodies
opinion, your statement above is clear enough in this context), we are
doomed.
Furthermore, you should not identify yourself with the proposal. The
seconders did second your proposal. But it seems now their second is abused
for the promotion of *your* goals whatever they may be. This tells me two
things: First, that you are not standing behind your proposal as a solution
for our distribution. Second, the rules Manoj made up for the policy group
fail to work completely when people start to pay more attention to them than
to the proposals themselves (see how you don't care at all about people
probably objecting to your proposal).
I am mildly disappointed, but I think this is part of our learning process.
The next time a topic gets out of hand such as this one, people will
hopefully realize this sooner and start to take a step back and think about
what's happening here.
Thanks,
Marcus
PS: Chris, please don't take this personally. You're not the only one to whom
my critique is targetted. I do not exclude myself from the critique either. My
formal objection to Manojs proposal for example was exactly the same playing
with the rules I am talking about above.
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