> I know the Pine 4.x series has issues with perms on mailboxes. > > This needs to be kept in mind. The original submitter asked why 660, owned by group mail was needed. This could be part of the reason. Julian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. J.D.Gilbey@qmw.ac.uk Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg