/dev/ttySx ought to be group owned by `dialout'. The directories where the `uucp' programs need writes ought to be owned by a `uucp' user and group `uucp'. The `uucp' user should be put into the `dialout' group. Where does `dip' fit in? -- mailto:psu25682@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Karl M. Hegbloom) mailto:karlheg@debian.org (Karl M. Hegbloom) Portland, OR USA Debian GNU Potato Linux 2.2 AMD K6-233(@266) XEmacs-21.2beta