Re: Bug#30036: debian-policy could include emacs policy
Hi,
>>"Darren" == Darren Benham <gecko@benham.net> writes:
Darren> I think we've got a few issues here...
Darren> One is an authors control over their own code. For example,
Darren> IWJ basicly (co-?) owns dpkg. Debian-policy should not have
Darren> any power to dictate what an author does with his own code,
Darren> including dpkg.
Straw man. No one has said anything about dictating how
programs work. All that has been proposed is standardization of
interfaces between programs that has been left to the whims and
fancies of random development.
Darren> On the other hand, no package has the power to dictate policy
Darren> to Debian, either. If dpkg is modified in such a way that it
Darren> no longer conforms with debian-policy, then Debian needs to
Darren> find a new package manager *NOT* dictate to dpkg's author on
Darren> how to write it.
Why do you keep harping on red herrings? We merely define the
interfaces in policy (the said interface may also describe how
dpkg works, incidentally, since dpkg was the prototype used to
define policy as it evolved, and thus dpkg and policy are in
agreement now). Any change of policy is decided here, not by a lone
developer. The developer is free to make changes to the package, as
you yourself say later on.
Darren> If a package violates policy some other way, it has to be
Darren> modifed to fit Debian policy or excluded from Debian.
Duh? It is suddenly OK to tell the maintainer that they have
to change their package? Do you see the contradiction in your words?
Is it or is it not ok to have a package modified to fit policy? Or
shall I just throw out every policy violation bug against my
packages?
Darren> Two is how debian-policy is decided. In this regard, I'd
Darren> prefer a middle ground. I don't think the current system is
Darren> working as well as we hoped and I don't think "fiat" (or
Darren> whatever Manoj calls it) would work as well. I'd rather see
Darren> a policy committee right along side the technical committee.
Darren> That way, there is *some* control over policy by the 400+
Darren> developers and policy is still under the care of people
Darren> who've proven themselves competant.
And where would you find such exemplary motivated individuals,
technically savvy and all a-raring t have a go at our policy ills? Do
they even exist? Why are they hiding their light under a bushel right
now? Why are they not jumping in and pushing the policy changes
through?
Good luck with your proposal. I don't think you'll get any
movement on that -- and we'll have a dead zone just like after
christian left (upset, partially, because of accusations of
aggrandisement).
manoj
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