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Re: What RMS says about standards



Hi,
>>"Joseph" == Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@earthlink.net> writes:

 >> There were sme fairly strong objections to putting them in
 >> main. And I don't think that contrib or non-free are justified
 >> either. 

 Joseph> I'd say non-free is the place for them, actually.  The reason
 Joseph> it's not is because you want to distribute them on CD,
 Joseph> non-free or not.

	*Sigh*. Here we go again. No, *NO NO*. The reason I do not
 want them to be in non-free is *NOT* just because I want to
 distribute them on the (I could care less). Please go back and read
 the darned archives. I would hate to start the same darned arguments
 over and over and over and over again!

 Joseph> If it's non-free enough that main or contrib isn't right,
 Joseph> non-free is the place.

	Rubbish. Graphics novels are not non-free enough to go into
 contrib. Thereason contrib is wrong is not because the documents we
 are looking for are too non-free, it is because they are too *FREE*
 to deserve being in contrib.

 Joseph> Verbatim seems to be a compromise on that principle to allow
 Joseph> distribution of non-free docs.

	Rubbish. We are not just talking about software documentation,
 by the way. 


 Joseph> If it doesn't matter that they're non-free for the purposes
 Joseph> of distribution as part of Debian, then why does it matter if
 Joseph> they're in main?  Is there a reason FSSTND needs to be on the
 Joseph> Debian CD?  PGP isn't and that's just as required by
 Joseph> developers.  Does this make any sense?


	You got a reason why technical opinions need be mutable? You
 even got a strong reason that anything not related to software harms
 the community by being immutable? Why do we have to go over the same
 tired arguments again?


 Joseph> Why make a technical policy exception for a bunch of non-free things,
 Joseph> software or not? 

	Because there is a reson we do not like non free softwaere. We
 do not do it because we are whimsical. Thereasons do not apply to
 other non software entities. 

	This was all discussed two weeks ago. Where were you then?


	I give up. I am withdrawing from this discussion. There seems
 to be no point to it. I do have better things to do than plough all
 this time and energy into it, only to redo it every couple of weeks. 

	manoj
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 conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed,
 by some, to dream. Hill House, not sane, stood by itself against its
 hills, holding darkness within; it had stood so for eighty years and
 might stand for eighty more. Within, walls continued upright, bricks
 met neatly, floors were firm, and doors were sensibly shut; silence
 lay steadily against the wood and stone of Hill House, and whatever
 walked there, walked alone. Shirley Jackson, "The Haunting of Hill
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