Re: Bug#174982: [PROPOSAL]: Debian changelogs should be UTF-8 encoded
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:57:35PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:12, Radovan Garabik wrote:
>
> > see #99933. It has been seconded and generally accepted at the time,
> > but policy freeze caused it did not get into policy then.
>
> Hmm, I searched the policy bug list, I don't know how I missed those.
> Probably my fault for using galeon-snapshot and expecting its search
> function to work :)
>
> #99324 isn't really a proposal, just a discussion.
>
> #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even
> suggest that people use UTF-8 in package control fields until all our
> tools support it. Right now it is just plain broken to put anything but
> ASCII in them.
But people are putting ISO-8859-1 there, now and then.
And I am going to use UTF-8 for Maintainer: in my packages, once
I have new stable mail address (and new UTF-8 GPG alias)
>
> I also personally don't like how it recommends using a "well-established
> encoding" or UTF-8. I mean, that's basically saying nothing. It
well, the whole proposal was a compromise after a long and bloody
flamewar :-)
> doesn't help applications at all, which will still be forced to guess
> what encoding files are in. In short, it doesn't improve the situation
It does help users, though. Most users are strictly monolingual
(English does not count) and use the well-established encoding.
> at all. I think policy should be silent on the encoding for most files,
> until we can usefully say it will just be UTF-8. Perhaps though policy
> could *suggest* UTF-8, and mention that it is the preferred encoding.
As my proposal does - there is just "should" everywhere, no "must"
>
> I do like the HTML META tag suggestion, although in the case of XHTML,
> it should be fine to use the charset parameter of the XML processing
> instruction, like in <?xml version="1.0" charset="UTF-8"?>.
Yes, this is fine.
>
> > Perhaps it is time now to accept it, since people keep
> > reinventing the proposal from time to time (this is the third
> > one I see)
>
> Yes, I think the time is getting closer. But I wanted my proposal to be
> small and simple, just a way for Unicode to get a foothold in policy,
> which we can expand later.
>
If you manage to persuade relevant persons (Manoj?). Good luck :-)
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