Re: Source package policy problem.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:46:37PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote:
> I am trying to make a source package of daemontools by Dan Bernstein. Since
> there is no license for distributing the source, I have made my source
> package an installer package. The only problem I have is the Debian .diff
Hello Adam,
as You probably know, I am working on a similar thing. I made _binary_
packages of djb's software, daemontools, ucspi-tcp, var-qmail (qmail,
dot-forward, fastforward), djbdns.
They are tested for a few month now by several people out there.
They do not comply with debian policy, because the binaries reside in
/usr/local/bin (excepting qmail, binaries are in /usr/{bin,sbin}), but they
seem to be accaptable to djb: I wrote him attached mail about three weeks
ago, did not get an answer yet. He did not prohibit an announcement of those
packages.
See the packages at http://www.innominate.org/~pape/djb/ .
Nevertheless, the packages cannot go into Debian GNU/Linux non-free, because
of the location of the binaries. I got a tip from Russel Nelson on djb's
dns-mailing-list: "Symlinks are your friends.". So my question:
Is it policy conform to have a package (or packages depending on each
other) installing binaries in /usr/bin/ _and_ providing syslinks to
/usr/local/bin/ ?
Adam, shouldn't we perhaps work together on this?
Regards, Gerrit.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:09:08 +0100
To: "D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to>
Subject: Re: Hey, you missed an installation step!
Message-ID: <20010105110908.A32529@innominate.de>
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On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:16:09PM -0000, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> This is all about the size of the community. ``Everyone uses BIND! Nobody
> uses djbdns! Support is available for BIND! No support is available for
> djbdns! There's tons of BIND documentation! There's nothing on djbdns!
> Everyone knows how to use BIND! Nobody knows how to use djbdns! There
> must be something wrong with djbdns.''
>
> In fact, the 90% number is a fabrication; one site serves 3% of all
> *.com zones with tinydns; commercial support is available for djbdns;
> the djbdns configuration is documented; any competent sysadmin can
> administer djbdns; at least one OS distributor includes djbdns; and
> djbdns has far fewer problems with large zones and interoperability than
> BIND does. The BIND company employee is willing to deceive his readers
> if it means he can create an impression of BIND as having all the users.
>
Hello Dan,
as other guys mentioned, it would increase the size of the community using
djbdns, having binary packages for operating systems available. The primary
OS I use is Debian GNU/Linux.
I have a binary package of djbdns for Debian; installing the package
produces exactly the same files, in exactly the same locations, that a user
would obtain by downloading, compiling, and installing djbdns-1.02.tar.gz.
http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/dist.html permits to distribute that package, ok.
djbdns depends on daemontools and ucspi-tcp, if using zone transfers. There
is no release of that projects right now and so no dist.html.
Nevertheless, I packaged daemontools and ucspi-tcp, again with no changes in
conf-*, binaries are installed in /usr/local/bin. They comply to
http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/dist.html .
May I announce these packages? Just making the package djbdns available
without daemontools and ucspi-tcp makes no sense.
And please, if not yet done, take a look at the precompiled var-qmail
package I did a few month ago. I would like to announce that one too.
It nearly fulfills http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html , just the man pages are
missing in the var-qmail hierarchy, they are installed in /usr/share/man,
and the binaries in /var/qmail/bin are symlinks.
djbdns package:
http://innominate.org/~pape/Debian/djbdns.html
var-qmail package:
http://innominate.org/~pape/Debian/qmail.html
var-qmail hierarchy filellist:
http://innominate.org/~pape/Debian/qmail/var-qmail.filelist
If You do not give me an answer, I will treat that as an approval.
Regards, Gerrit.
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innominate AG
the linux architects
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