On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:00:05 +0000, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > Our next Low-Hanging Fruit Session[1] on IRC is tomorrow: > 2016-12-21, 19:00 UTC, #debian-perl @ irc.debian.org (A.K.A. OFTC) Some notes, based on the gobby doc: Participants ============ knowledgejunkie, gregoa, fsfs, axhn, carnil, knowledgejunkie, ntyni, alexm, olly Work done ========= * update libtext-reflow-perl, libcatalyst-perl, libcatalyst-view-csv-perl, libcbor-xs-perl, libmojolicious-perl, libparams-validationcompiler-perl * discuss RC bugs, esp. the "random test failure" ones, see below * look over other RC bugs * discuss team sprint 2017 "Randomly FTBFS" RC bugs ======================== axhn started to write a text for a bug report against release.debian.org which was not sent after we disovered #844264. (Later ntyni and fsfs commented there). Affected bugs from https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=ftbfs-randomly;users=sanvila@debian.org #845167 lemonldap-ng: FTBFS randomly (failing tests) #848060 libx11-protocol-other-perl: FTBFS randomly (failing tests) #848408 libapp-termcast-perl: FTBFS randomly (failing tests) #848409 libchi-driver-redis-perl: FTBFS randomly (failing tests) #834912 libfile-tee-perl: FTBFS randomly (Failed 1/2 test programs) #843052 libterm-filter-perl: FTBFS randomly (failing tests) Other similar bugs: #846667 libpoe-loop-event-perl: FTBFS: Test failures From https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844264#35 jcristau, release team member: | The common rule is that FTBFS is serious. Then there's the real world, | where e.g. some tests are timing-dependent and so don't always fail, but | having them is still better than not, so if the failure rate is low | enough I think a lower severity can make sense. Some quotes from IRC during the meeting and on the next day: 21:34 <gregoa> ok, so could go through them, forward upstream where not already happened, disable if the failure is somehow probable. lower severity for the sporadic cases with a reference to msg #35 in this bug and add that we're also fine with stretch-ignore 21:36 <fsfs> gregoa: sounds good [next day] 10:43 <Dom> so what's the current thinking on randomly-occurring FTBFS being RC? 10:45 <fsfs> Dom: I think we should make sure to have those failures forwarded upstream, and then it's either downgrading the bugs or disabling the test. I'd prefer downgrading, and my feeling is that the release team does so, too 10:48 <Dom> Yeah, downgrading is much better than disabling the test 10:59 <carnil> ack yes 11:00 <carnil> I don't have much to say, sicne was quite inactive regarding recent FTBFS bugreports, but it feels not right to just going to disable the testsuite because rare/small failing probability See you again next year: 2017-01-21, 17:00 UTC, #debian-perl @ irc.debian.org/OFTC Cheers, gregor -- .''`. https://info.comodo.priv.at/ - Debian Developer https://www.debian.org : :' : OpenPGP fingerprint D1E1 316E 93A7 60A8 104D 85FA BB3A 6801 8649 AA06 `. `' Member of VIBE!AT & SPI, fellow of the Free Software Foundation Europe `- NP: Tom Waits: Bad Liver and a Broken Heart
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