Hi, (this is a long mail. having yoru favourite drink around is recommended) I've tried to rebuild all pkg-perl packages with perl 5.10 from experimental and I have to say, the situation is not pink :( Out of 268 packages attempted, 76 failed to build with the following error: rmdir: /tmp/buildd/libdir-purge-perl-1.02/debian/libdir-purge-perl/usr/lib/perl5: No such file or directory I have compiled a list on [1] [1] http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/perl5.10-FTBFS.txt The list is incomplete and I'll add more to it when I have more results. Once again, this is only for packages maintained by the group, not all perl module packages. Note also that for now these are only the failures caused by the unconditional rmdir. These are very easy to fix -- the fix is actually already committed by gregoa so the packages have to "only" be reviewed/uploaded. There are also other, hidden failures that are not in that list. Take for example image-size: The following packages are BROKEN: libcompress-raw-zlib-perl The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcompress-raw-zlib-perl: Depends: perlapi-5.8.8 which is a virtual package. The following packages will be DOWNGRADED: perl perl-base perl-modules This downgrade will not be possible when 5.10 is in unstable. The fix, however is not trivial at all. It is to build the packages depending on perlapi-5.8.8 with perl5.10, which IMHO is best done with binNMUs. Some of the binNMUs will fail (for the same reason build-deps depending on perlapi-5.8.8), but several runs have to clear the pile. If anyone can provide a "staircase" approach for this, i.e. a list of package to binNMU first (arch-dep, with no build-depends (including build-depends dependencies) depending on perlapi-5.8.8), then another list which includes packages build-depending (incl. indirectly) on packages from the first list, etc, that would be great. Some of these packages will also FTBFS due to the rmdir bug so that should be cleared first. So I propose to * Variant A 1) upload packages with fixed debian/rules (no unconditional rmdir) 2) give perl 5.10 green light, wait for it to enter sid on all architectures 3) schedule binNMUs for the arch-dep packages (hopefuly using the staricase list someone prepared in the mean time) 4) fix failures with maintainer uploads 5) ask Lucas to rebuild archive yet again (or at least all packages that produce binary packages named lib*-perl) 6) fix failures or, * Variant B) 1) upload arch-dep (not all) packages with fixed debian/rules and wait for them to appear on all architectures 2) give perl 5.10 green light, wait for all archs 3) binNMUs for arch-dep packages 4) during 2) and 3), work on arch-indep packages may continue in parallel 5) archive rebuild the B method would allow for perl-5.10 to enter sid earlier, allowing for more parallel work. OTOH it looks slightly more complicated and in need of sync. Ths script used to generate build logs is in scripts/rebuild-all.sh. It is in very early stages of development and has hardcoded some location-specific things. Still it can be used as a base. Note that the script uses the sources from *unstable*, not the SVN repo. That's it. I'll keep filling up [1] as my PC progresses through the queue (it is at 388/621 after some hours of work. hopefully it will be done by today). Any help for clearing the list is welcome. Please remove the package from the list at [1] when uploading. Thanks for participating ;-) -- dam JabberID: dam@jabber.minus273.org
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