Re: Objectionable selection of students in Debian
Hello Nitish,
First, your email contains user tracking artifacts from mailtag.io.
Accordingly to their website it seems that you are using some kind of
browser extension that adds that to your emails. I strongly encourage
your to revisit this choice. I find it abhorring and will discard any
other email containing similar things.
It may very well be that your emails have not been seen by the mentors
because of the above mentioned tracking embedded into them. This one
made it past my spam filters only because I received it through a Debian
mailing list. Other spam filters may be much more severe.
Second, I understand your frustration: any form of candidate selection
will leave someone disappointed. However, the accusatory tone of your
email will not motivate the mentors of your project to motivate their
choice or explain their selection criteria, and they do not have to.
Third, you are openly accusing Minkush Jain to have copied your code for
his submission. However, I don't see any relevant similarity in your and
his code, beside what is inevitable in two function of less than ten
lines of code implementing the same functionality.
Best,
Daniele
On 4/23/18 1:01 PM, Nitish Dwivedi wrote:
> Hey Everyone.
> Congratulations to everyone who made it through the selection process.
> However, I would raise an objection to the selection of particular
> student in my project: *Wizard/GUI helping students/interns apply and
> get started.*
>
> The Idea that I worked on was to subscribe to mailing lists using
> python(requests) module. I started to work on this part on 10 Feb 18 and
> sent first mail to the mentor, Daniel Pocock on 13th Feb 18 on his
> personal email. This was my first commit.
> After Mr. Daniel Pocock told me to put my application on the
> mailing lists, I Introduced my application on the mailing list[1
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df484396-4727-11e8-ac1a-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.debian.org%2Fdebian-outreach%2F2018%2F02%2Fmsg00083.html>]
> on 21st Feb 18 along with the code(which I made public ).
>
> However, Another student Minkush Jain[2
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df48459e-4727-11e8-9ff7-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fsummerofcode.withgoogle.com%2Fprojects%2F%234644695314006016>]
> didn't even introduced himself on the mailing list nor have a wiki page
> and got selected in the same project by working on the same idea on
> which I worked about 1 month ago.
>
> Also, the amount of similarity in my code and his is amazing. Adding
> something on top of something that was already available won't make much
> of a different code. The functionality achieved by both the codes was
> nearly same.
> For Reference, see this code of his: [3
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df4846fc-4727-11e8-b2ae-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fminkushjain%2Fgsoc-debian%2Fcommit%2F5b6989a677e3d18c3a50051d71f1ca55a39657f7+>]
> & [4
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df48483c-4727-11e8-9eb3-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fminkushjain%2Fgsoc-debian%2Fcommit%2F328ad821ac3f30d50aa9a6efe863dbecae59d05f>]
> I see a lot of similarities from my subscribe mailing list function[5
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df48495e-4727-11e8-baa3-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnitishkd%2Fget-started%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FSubscribeMailingList.py>].
>
> If mentors thought that there is something lagging in my code, they
> could have told me about that. I have been waiting for more than a month
> for a single suggestion but received none!
>
> Now at the end of all this, I feel cheated and really disappointed by
> the selection procedure. I had put a lot of efforts to make this work as
> this was my last chance to be part of GSoC. I was surprised how this
> could happen even after the enormous amount of work that mentors put here.
> This was unexpected!
>
> Thank you
> Nitish Kumar Dwivedi
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/02/msg00083.html
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=e20d26ce-4726-11e8-a975-0639b0ec1a86&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.debian.org%2Fdebian-outreach%2F2018%2F02%2Fmsg00083.html>
> [2] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/projects/#4644695314006016
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=df484a9e-4727-11e8-bdc7-06cf19e8c68c&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fsummerofcode.withgoogle.com%2Fprojects%2F%234644695314006016>
> [3] https://github.com/minkushjain/gsoc-debian/commit/5b6989a677e3d18c3a50051d71f1ca55a39657f7 ;
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=e20d28ea-4726-11e8-941f-0639b0ec1a86&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fminkushjain%2Fgsoc-debian%2Fcommit%2F5b6989a677e3d18c3a50051d71f1ca55a39657f7>
> [4] https://github.com/minkushjain/gsoc-debian/commit/328ad821ac3f30d50aa9a6efe863dbecae59d05f
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=e20d2a5c-4726-11e8-ae04-0639b0ec1a86&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fminkushjain%2Fgsoc-debian%2Fcommit%2F328ad821ac3f30d50aa9a6efe863dbecae59d05f>
> [5] https://github.com/nitishkd/get-started/blob/master/SubscribeMailingList.py
> <https://app.mailtag.io/link-event-v2?mt__id=e20d2ba6-4726-11e8-ab67-0639b0ec1a86&mt__url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fnitishkd%2Fget-started%2Fblob%2Fmaster%2FSubscribeMailingList.py>
>
>
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