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Bug#420469: marked as done (openoffice.org: email settings: undocumented, broken behaviour)



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Package: openoffice.org
Version: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-5etch1
Severity: important

hi,

OOo1.x used to have a mozilla-like panel to setup helpers program. 
On upgrade to OOo2 only the emailer remained, but that feature is broken 
now, and undocumented:

1. on fresh install, there's a misterious 'sensible-ooomua' which is not
  documented anywhere in man/docs/help and, if avail it seems a hook for
  evolution, which is not the emailer of my choice, and no info is avail
  for configuring it.
2. if there's a program/script name borrowed from OOo1.x, which *worked*,
  it may not work anymore, an error msg pops up, saying OOo is not setup 
  for a 'supported' emailer ?!?

If it where just for point 1, fine - I'd just delete the misty sensible* 
and put in fullpath to my emailer/script. 

But the real culprit is point 2: first, it doesn't work (anymore), breaks 
user's setting/setup; second, and most important, what the heck means 
'supported'? OOo should be neutral wrt helper apps - if it knows exactly how
to pass args to a handful progs, fine (but may put maint. overhead), like 
in OOo1 just offer such pre-defined entries (moz1,moz2,...) but then there
must be a generic opt for the generic emailer/helper the end-user wants to
use, which would be called by 

%  user-supplied-program-name/path 'path-to-temp-file'

which would do whatever the end-user needs/wants to happen pressing the
send-as-(PDF)-attachment.

thanks
--
paolo



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Hi,

Paolo wrote:
^^^^^

Got remooved upstream.

> On upgrade to OOo2 only the emailer remained, but that feature is broken 
> now, and undocumented:
> 
> 1. on fresh install, there's a misterious 'sensible-ooomua' which is not
>   documented anywhere in man/docs/help and, if avail it seems a hook for

sensible-ooomua is not existant, because it is a fake. see below.
It is not documented because it's not a real script anywehere.
So it doesn't need a manpage. And it's a debian-ism anyway.

>   evolution, which is not the emailer of my choice, and no info is avail

+case `basename "$MAILER"` in
+       sensible-ooomua)
+               if [ -n "$GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID" -a -x /usr/bin/evolution ]; then
+                       MAILER=/usr/bin/evolution
+               elif [ -n "$KDE_FULL_SESSION" -a -x /usr/bin/kmail ]; then
+                       MAILER=/usr/bin/kmail
+               elif [ -x /usr/bin/evolution ]; then
+                       # default
+                       MAILER=/usr/bin/evolution
+               fi
+               ;;
+esac

You probably use GNOME and have evolution installed... Or just fall into the fallback.
(Which BTW should be the fallback app in your opinion?)

>   for configuring it.

Wrong. If you can't think of the possibility to simply add whatever you like
in that box, I am sorry, but. Because that is what the senddoc script checks:

looking at senddoc.sh, It knows about:

        sensible-ooomua)
        iceape | mozilla | netscape | icedove | thunderbird)
        kmail)
        evolution)
        sylpheed)

(mutt got added in the 2.2.0 packages)

> But the real culprit is point 2: first, it doesn't work (anymore), breaks 
> user's setting/setup; second, and most important, what the heck means 

That setting never was a conffile system-wide, and the user profile dir changed.

> 'supported'? OOo should be neutral wrt helper apps - if it knows exactly how
> to pass args to a handful progs, fine (but may put maint. overhead), like 

That's exactly what senddoc does.

> in OOo1 just offer such pre-defined entries (moz1,moz2,...) but then there

See above.

> must be a generic opt for the generic emailer/helper the end-user wants to
> use, which would be called by 

This *is* what we try with this. At least for the generic desktop users. I don't like
that vbery much either but what should you default to?`

Gr�gards,

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