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Bug#305659: openoffice.org: Extremely annoying question about "saving changes" when OO is in the background



Package: openoffice.org
Version: 1.1.3-8
Severity: important


Openoffice has aquired a nasty habit of periodically asking
if I want to save changes.  That really disturbs the way I usually
work with openoffice.  I use openoffice mostly as a document
reader, to read openoffice/staroffice/word documents while composing
a reply in my email reader.  

Openoffice mistakenly believes I make "changes", either because it
is flat out _wrong_ (I didn't do a thing) or sometimes because
I typed a handful of letters into an OO window by mistake when OO
grabbed focus as I was writing in another window.

Either way, I read some text in OO and turns my attention to the
email program (thunderbird) to wrrite a few paragraphs of replies.
While I type in thunderbird, OO suddenly jumps to the foreground
and pops up an autosave question.  This is _extremely_ annoying,
I wasn't even using OO at the moment.  OO did not do this to me before,
so it is a regression too.  The "important" status of this report is
deserved, this behaviour is really work-wrecking and disrupts
work with all other apps.

It looks like this popup is fired by a timer, long after changes
were made or misdetected. (Copying text from OO does _not_ change
the document, resizing tOO so it fits beside another app is _not_
change, moving the cursor around is _not_ change . . .)

OO competes with ms-office to some extent - please don't think that
the open sopurce world need all the same _nuisances_ ms users
have in addition to similiar functionality.

Suggestions for improvement:
============================

Best alternative
   Remove that popup completely.  Popups is _really_ bad user interface,
   because they force the user to react then and there.  OO has a
   status line at the bottom, just tell that an autosave was done there.
   Or don�t even tell, just do it.  (Well, don't save into the
   main file if the user don't ask for that - save to some
   autosave file.  Look at the editor Lyx, it gets autosaving right.

If the popup absolutely _have_ to remain:
   I can't see why - but if OO designers insist on keeping it:
   * make sure it _never ever_ pops up while OO doesn't have
     keyboard focus.  Because OO is then interfering badly with
     another app.  OO should only ever pop things up while
     having focus.
   * The popup should preferably _not_ grab focus and _not_ raise
     the openoffice window.  That would make the popup a lot less
     annoying.

Helge Hafting

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (800, 'experimental'), (800, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-rc2-mm1
Locale: LANG=no_NO.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=no_NO.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages openoffice.org depends on:
ii  dictionaries-common [openoffi 0.24.10    Common utilities for spelling dict
ii  openoffice.org-bin            1.1.3-8    OpenOffice.org office suite binary
ii  openoffice.org-debian-files   1.1.3-8+1  Debian specific parts of OpenOffic
ii  openoffice.org-l10n-en [openo 1.1.3-8    English (US) language package for 
ii  openoffice.org-l10n-nb [openo 1.1.3-8    Norwegian Bokmal language package 
ii  ttf-opensymbol                1.1.3-8    The OpenSymbol TrueType font
ii  xml-core                      0.09       XML infrastructure and XML catalog

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