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Package: openoffice.org-bin
Version: 1.1.1-3
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As discussed on IRC, changing dependencies in the build process would prevent the _all packages from being uploaded
to architectures not supported by OpenOffice (sorry for the straight cut&paste; I could not think how to summarize
the issue otherwise):
12:58 < Q-FUNK> can anyone think of a solution for the Architecture line of a meta-package that installs various
localisation files, so that the package can only be installed on the 4 architectures supported by
openoffice?12:59 < Q-FUNK> Architecture: i386 powerpc sparc s390
13:00 < Q-FUNK> that came to mind, but would require actually building the package separately for each architecture,
which is not what I want. I just want that package not to be installable on non-supported architectures.
13:01 < martink> well, openoffice.org (the package) has "Architecture: all"
13:02 < martink> and it's obviously useless on anything but i386, powerpc, sparc, s390
13:03 < Q-FUNK> wouldn't it make sense to make a policy change to re-introduct the [arch] tag for control?
13:14 < martink> <i-am-not-a-d-d> Don't know </i-am-not-a-d-d> ;-)
13:15 < LarstiQ> the way tasksel deals with it is depending on openoffice.org-bin instead
13:26 < Q-FUNK> that's how my funkyware-dekstop package is made (depends upon -bin), but funkyware-oo-locales just
depends upon the myspell dictionaries and locales themselves.
13:28 < martink> but the locales depend on openoffice.org which depends on openoffice.org-bin. Is that not enough of
a hint for apt
13:35 < Q-FUNK> no. it still preselects the packages, but complains that -bin is not available.
13:35 < Q-FUNK> there's no way to prevent someone from accidentally selecting the funkyware-oo-locales package on an
arch not supported by OOo
13:36 < Q-FUNK> because the -all packages for OOo are still available in non-supported arches' repositories.
17:39 < haggai> Q-FUNK: the -all packages never leave unstable for those arches AFAIK
17:40 < _rene_> hmm? context?
17:41 < haggai> 11:58 < Q-FUNK> that came to mind, but would require actually building the package separately
17:41 < haggai> for each architecture, which is not what I want. I just want that package not
17:41 < haggai> to be installable on non-supported architectures.
17:41 < haggai> 12:34 < Q-FUNK> because the -all packages for OOo are still available in non-supported arches'
17:41 < haggai> repositories.
17:42 < _rene_> for what?
17:42 < haggai> ah, you mean you missed the conversation? I'll /msg it to you
17:42 < _rene_> btw, what you say is not true. openoffice.org _is_ in the packages files for !i386,sparc,powerpc,s390
17:42 < haggai> in testing?
17:42 < _rene_> excuse me if I got it wrong
17:42 < _rene_> Hmm
17:42 < _rene_> good question :)
17:42 < _rene_> I think yes
17:43 * haggai thought not
17:43 < _rene_> let's look
17:44 < _rene_> http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/testing_probs.html
17:44 < _rene_> and search for openoffice.org
17:45 < haggai> oh yuk
17:45 < haggai> halls@gluck:~$ grep "Package: openoffice.org$" /home/org/ftp.root/debian/dists/*/main/binary-arm/Packages
17:45 < haggai> /home/org/ftp.root/debian/dists/sarge/main/binary-arm/Packages:Package: openoffice.org
17:45 < haggai> /home/org/ftp.root/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-arm/Packages:Package: openoffice.org
17:46 < _rene_> jep...
17:47 < _rene_> a way to make it lesser confusing would be a s/-bin// and make openoffice.org -common or so
17:47 < _rene_> maybe we could do that post-sarge
17:56 < haggai> hmm, I guess so
18:01 < _rene_> because testing ignores all packages' installability on !i386
18:01 < _rene_> s/all/_all/
18:03 < Q-FUNK> hopefully pre-sarge
18:03 < _rene_> Q-FUNK: you really don't want us to chenage the structure in this way so short before a release?
18:03 < _rene_> Q-FUNK: no way
18:03 < _rene_> s/n't//
18:04 < LarstiQ> well
18:04 < _rene_> although this change really makes sense...
18:04 < LarstiQ> indeed
18:04 < LarstiQ> openoffice wasn't in woody, no?
18:05 < _rene_> right
18:08 < LarstiQ> well then, if the change can be debugged pre-sarge :)
18:12 < haggai> sorry folks, it's too late to change it
18:13 < haggai> we'll mess up stuff like tasksel
18:16 * LarstiQ nods
18:16 * LarstiQ has no idea about timeframes and such
18:16 < LarstiQ> haggai: but talking about it with tasksel and other people involved won't hurt?
18:18 < _rene_> LarstiQ: roughly speaking: as soon as d-i is ready there'll be the freeze
18:18 < _rene_> and d-i now has rc's...
18:18 < LarstiQ> knowing d-i, that will coincide with hell freezing over
18:19 < haggai> LarstiQ: they have been hacking on it and doing release testing all week here at debconf
18:19 < LarstiQ> aaaah, debconf
18:19 < haggai> LarstiQ: it won't be long now
18:19 < LarstiQ> right, that will help :)
18:19 < LarstiQ> it did last year *cough*
18:20 < LarstiQ> haggai: see my point?
18:20 < Q-FUNK> but it would be silly to leave such an obvious bug open. otherwise, we'll have to wait 2 years to
get it done...
18:20 < LarstiQ> haggai: I hope it happens soon, yes, but it's been like that for even longer
18:20 < _rene_> Q-FUNK: it would be silly to do this major change now
18:20 < LarstiQ> Q-FUNK: have to balance it with breaking things at this stage tho
18:21 < _rene_> Q-FUNK: and possibly introduce new bugs
18:21 < _rene_> Q-FUNK: package relationships, upgrade stuff, tasks, ...
18:21 < Q-FUNK> IMHO, the change should still be made and uploaded to unstable as 1.1.1-4. If it makes it on time,
if not, people using testing will still eventually see it.
18:22 < Q-FUNK> _rene_: well right now there's nothing to upgrade from, as far as OOo is concerned. there's still
time. I realize it's a lot of work rather close to the freeze, but it would really help if it could
be done now.
18:23 < Q-FUNK> and I really am NOT confident with d-i being really completed and 100% bug-free on all 11
architectures on time.
18:24 < Q-FUNK> the d-i is getting better all the time, but it's still not quite there on all architectures.
18:25 < Q-FUNK> well, anyhow, the decision is up to you guys, of course. :)
18:26 < _rene_> you could write wishlist bug with which we we'll deal when the time comes ;)
18:27 < _rene_> errors in this sentence are a gift ;)
18:33 < Q-FUNK> hm??
18:34 < _rene_> we we'll, missing a etc :)
18:35 < LarstiQ> if all parties involved agree to go ahead, it can be done?
18:36 < LarstiQ> just don't break this under people's noses
18:36 < LarstiQ> I don't think ooo will be dropped from sarge, so you'll be lynched instead :)
18:37 * _rene_ ponders writing a big plate "it's LarstiQ's fault" ;)
18:37 < LarstiQ> that, of course, would also do
18:37 < _rene_> which will protect us ;-)
18:38 < LarstiQ> and they can't strip me from anything much
18:42 < haggai> I'm sorry, I really think this is far too late
18:42 < LarstiQ> haggai: even with the big plate that has my name on it?
18:42 < haggai> we can't afford to have all the delays and time needed to do this
18:42 < _rene_> LarstiQ: yes
18:42 < _rene_> LarstiQ: it was a joke
18:43 < haggai> this should have been done at least a few months ago. Iagree it is a problem and needs fixing, but
the fix has too many possible problems
18:43 < LarstiQ> bah, why does haggai have to be sensible
18:43 < haggai> heh :)
18:44 < haggai> 'cos I get all the flack when it breaks? :)
18:44 < LarstiQ> I'm still willing to accept a big plate ;)
18:44 < LarstiQ> _rene_: (yes, that's joking)
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (101, 'testing'), (99, 'unstable')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.6-imac
Locale: LANG=fi_FI@euro, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI@euro
Versions of packages openoffice.org-bin depends on:
ii debconf 1.4.25 Debian configuration management sy
ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.16-5 Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii libaudio2 1.6c-4 The Network Audio System (NAS). (s
ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-12 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii libcurl2 7.11.2-1 Multi-protocol file transfer libra
ii libdb3++c102 3.2.9-19.1 Berkeley v3 Database Libraries for
ii libfontconfig1 2.2.2-2 generic font configuration library
ii libfreetype6 2.1.7-2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib
ii libgcc1 1:3.3.3-9 GCC support library
ii libice6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libmyspell3 1:3.1-5 MySpell spellchecking library
ii libneon23 0.23.9.dfsg.2-1 An HTTP and WebDAV client library
ii libsm6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System Session Management
ii libstdc++5 1:3.3.3-9 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libstlport4.6 4.6.2-1 STLport C++ class library
ii libx11-6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-2 X Window System protocol client li
ii libxaw7 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 X Athena widget set library
ii libxext6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-2 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii libxt6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-2 X Toolkit Intrinsics
ii openoffice.org 1.1.1-3 high-quality office productivity s
ii xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 X Window System client libraries m
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1.1-3 compression library - runtime
-- debconf information:
* openoffice.org-bin/prelink: true
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Hi,
These bugs are fixed in 2.0.0-1 (or already by a previous version in
experimental) and have been tagged fixed-in-experimental manualy.
I am closing them now.
Regards,
Rene
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